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Old 01-19-2020, 07:03 PM  
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Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)
Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:56 AM   #3586
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This is such an awesome match-up. Even if I weren't a huge Chiefs fan I'd still really, really be looking forward to watching this game.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:56 AM   #3587
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Chiefs just need to protect the ball and we’ll be fine.

Every loss over the last 2 seasons has been the result of dumb errors on our part. Turnovers have been the primary issue in most of them.

Going back to last season:

Rams: 5 turnovers (I think 2 were for TDs)
Seattle: 2 lost fumbles by receivers
Patriots (regular season): 2 interceptions

This year:

Colts: McCoy fumble
Texans: Mahomes strip sack at the end of the half
Packers: McCoy fumble
Titans: Williams fumble for TD

Just take care of the ball and we’ll be fine.
The Texans game was on the refs and the bullshit picking up that flag, and the Packers game was on Reid punting the ball to Rodgers with 4 min left on 4th and 3.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:57 AM   #3588
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Something I'd love for a 49er fan to somehow defend, because Richard Sherman doesn't move, what is to stop the Chiefs from throwing Robinson out there on him and making their scrub CB's try to deal with Tyreek and creating a massive mismatch?
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:57 AM   #3589
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The other thing I forgot to throw in, the Saints didn't do this because Brees doesn't really move.

But QB's that can move, Wilson, Murray and then the Rams showed them a moving pocket and it completely ****ed with their line like no tomorrow. This isn't an all time defense, it's talented but it can be had and other teams have exposed that.
The Chiefs will know how to exploit Dee Ford. They know exactly who he is.

And if you take him out of the equation, the 49ers pass rush looks a bit pedestrian. In fact, the other 3 or 4 guys in the rotation produce TWICE a good with him on the field as they do with him out.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:57 AM   #3590
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Sherman is slow as hell. I'd line up Hill against him time and time again.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:58 AM   #3591
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The Texans game was on the refs and the bullshit picking up that flag, and the Packers game was on Reid punting the ball to Rodgers with 4 min left on 4th and 3.
Yes, but both games also had key turnovers.

If we don’t fumble at the end of the half against the Texans, that game is a win. That fumble kept them in that game.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:58 AM   #3592
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What you're seeing is a radical paradigm shift, caused by the fact that we've watched individual QB's like Elway, Brady, Rodgers, etc. win Super Bowls by elevating everybody around them.

This is the first time since LEN DAWSON the Chiefs have actually had a QB that could do that. You just happen to have arrived right in the middle of a seismic shift in the KC fanbase.
To be fair, Montana elevated the team in 1993, those two playoff wins were huge at the time.

Sucks that he got knocked out with a late helmet to helmet hit in Buffalo that he honestly never really recovered from...
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:59 AM   #3593
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So I’ve heard it all this morning on twitter.

Our defense sucks.
Our offensive line sucks.
We have no run game.
Mahomes will be on his back the entire game.
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Yes, but both games also had key turnovers.

If we don’t fumble at the end of the half against the Texans, that game is a win. That fumble kept them in that game.
Picking up that flag was even more egregious- we were on the verge of blowing them out at that point. Score there and the game is over, well before the fumble.
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The Chiefs will know how to exploit Dee Ford. They know exactly who he is.

And if you take him out of the equation, the 49ers pass rush looks a bit pedestrian. In fact, the other 3 or 4 guys in the rotation produce TWICE a good with him on the field as they do with him out.
The other thing is their DL is athletic but is very light....

Nick Bosa comes in at nearly 270 at end so he's about the only one that you go ok he's big for his position, look at the rest..

Armstead is 6'8 280
Buckner 6'7 280
Thomas 6'3 280
Ford is like 240

That is extremely light especially at the DT position, those are some long lanky dudes to be playing in the middle honestly.
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Yes, but both games also had key turnovers.

If we don’t fumble at the end of the half against the Texans, that game is a win. That fumble kept them in that game.
I think Mahomes avoiding injury is important. Chiefs offense died in Colts/Texans games after his ankle got messed up in 2nd quarter of each game.
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Does anyone think that SFs pass defense is much if any better than GB really?

I think GB has the better secondary, and their pass rush is right there with them. Their problem was they couldn’t stop the run against a team like SF to let their pass defense actually work.

And when KC played GB, with Matt Moore, their DBs couldn’t cover our receivers at all. Hill ran circles around Kevin King, a guy who is similar to a Richard Sherman in terms of body type and athleticism.

And again, that was with Matt Moore! And it wasn’t like we just exploited their bad run defense. We just threw it on them all night with pretty darn good success.
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This is one of those times when it would be nice to still have Hunt around, the LBs on the Niners are fast but small...Kwon Alexander is a little dude by NFL LB standards but he can run.

Matter of fact Kelce is significantly bigger than all of their LBs so he may have a good mismatch there.
Kelce is a mismatch every single game, and that's why the Niners are going to have to commit valuable defensive resources to slowing him down in the middle of the field. In that Cover 3 shell, there's a natural soft spot in the short flats which I believe will be even softer because of the attention Kelce will draw. Who does that benefit most? Damien Williams. He's going to catch a bunch of passes in the flat unless the Niners adjust. Dude's been on a roll lately as well.
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The Chiefs will know how to exploit Dee Ford. They know exactly who he is.

And if you take him out of the equation, the 49ers pass rush looks a bit pedestrian. In fact, the other 3 or 4 guys in the rotation produce TWICE a good with him on the field as they do with him out.
Exactly.

I think this is where the big disconnect comes in between the 49ers fans who have shown up here and been surprised KC is not more scared of their line.

Their whole success as a pass rushing unit is based on a player KC fans know extremely well and know how easy it is to exploit.

The 49ers have a big choice to make. Are they going to treat every down like a passing down and get Ford on the field, to maximize the effectiveness of their pass rush? And if so, how are they going to handle how easily he can be exploited in the run game?

Or are they going to use him like normal and take the risk of getting roasted for chunk plays on 1st down, 2nd and short downs because KC throws the shit out of the ball and their pass rush is average without Ford?
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Sherman is slow as hell. I'd line up Hill against him time and time again.
Just hope refs are ready to throw flags if this happens again.
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