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Old 01-26-2020, 01:35 PM  
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Kobe Bryant and daughter killed in helicopter crash
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https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/26/kobe-...-in-calabasas/
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:01 PM   #196
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:04 PM   #197
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Ours was a 172 w/ an engine conversion to give it the guts of a 182. And yeah, built in the late 60s, early 70s.

I never felt unsafe on it; we didn't **** around with safety or maintenance. Any flight that might encounter weather was just scrubbed and the hearing continued. But I had an instructor who put us through some adversity paces and do shit like surreptitiously kill the motor without telling us. And that rattled the hell out of me.

It wasn't hard to convince me to walk away because as comfortable as I am w/ vehicles, I knew I was lying to myself when I'd say I was ready for real adversity. The 'carb heater' trick and the like would just rattle me more than I'd expect.

We wasted all the flight training and took a bath on the sale, but nobody really cared at that point. Someone was going to be killed or seriously injured at some point so it was the right decision. I haven't been on a light aircraft since and really don't expect that I will be again.

Juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
My first job out of college was documenting all the ways a plane could crash. I don't really feel comfortable on single engine things that fly.

Granted, my job assumed that something hostile was hitting the plane, but the cause is irrelevant.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:06 PM   #198
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:06 PM   #199
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Very sad and a tragedy, especially since one of his children was on board.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:07 PM   #200
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What blows my mind is that our government for decades has used a helicopter to take the President from the White House to the airport. If I was President, I would refuse to ever step in the helicopter. They can drive me to the airport. Might be slower, but safer IMHO.
The POTUS flies an osprey now. Pretty ****ing awe inspiring when you're stuck in DC traffic and see a squad of those things buzz your car.

But RIP to Bryant and his daughter. Words cannot describe the shock and despair that family must be going through right now.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:08 PM   #201
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I dont understand why rich people continue to fly small aircraft..it might be convenient but it seems like its only a matter of time before you go down
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Wow. Even deeper knowing who was on board and where they were going. Condolences to the other player, the parent and their family as well. Just awful.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:09 PM   #203
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If you have trouble on a plane it might be able to land safely. But if the rotors stop on a chopper it just turns into a falling rock.
Back in the early 90’s we took a family trip to D.C. and one day we stumbled across this military... I don’t know what to call it exactly, exhibition for lack of a better word. “Fan fest” maybe. We played tic tac toe with a Navy SEAL who was in a water tank to give you an idea. Anyway, there was a Blackhawk parked there and people would stand in line to sit in the co-pilot seat and have the pilot give you some info on it and answer any questions you might have. One of my questions as I was looking around was, “Where are the parachutes?” I was informed there weren’t any because helicopters were designed to magically (not his words) land safely in case of a failure. Even at the naive young age of roughly 10-11 years old I wasn’t sure how much I believed that or trusted the system in place.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:09 PM   #204
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No. The 5 were:

The pilot, Kobe, his daughter Gigi, and a Father and daughter (who played on Kobe’s basketball team with Gigi).
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A friend of mine survived a small chopper crash last spring in Montana....he still has nightmares.
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By the way it wasn't the fog or the pilot apparently. There was a fire in the helicopter that caused the crash according to TMZ
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No. The 5 were:

The pilot, Kobe, his daughter Gigi, and a Father and daughter (who played on Kobe’s basketball team with Gigi).
I read it only said "another parent and player" that doesn't necessarily mean that the parent/player were on the same team as Kobe's daughter.

Rick Fox has a 20 year old daughter, it could have been a tournament they were all going to? Just saying.
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