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Old 01-26-2020, 01:35 PM  
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Kobe Bryant and daughter killed in helicopter crash
No warranty on this, but it's on TMZ.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/26/kobe-...-in-calabasas/
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:45 PM   #166
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:46 PM   #167
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Wow crazy. So many celebrities die in aircraft crashes. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Buddy Holly, Payne Stewart...

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So often it's the smaller aircrafts, too. I'd be interested in seeing the data on how much more dangerous smaller aircrafts tend to be than larger commercial.

A couple of times when I was 18 or 19, a friend I went to high school with had his pilots license. One engine airplane. He used to fly us up to a casino in Minnesota because if you flew in they would give you a free buffet and $100 to play. Would never do that today.
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:46 PM   #168
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Now that I think we can dismiss the rumors about his daughter's, absolutely not.
One of his daughters was reportedly on board.
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:46 PM   #169
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From the TMZ update:

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12:35 PM PT -- Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria Onore -- aka GiGi -- was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash ... reps for Kobe tell TMZ Sports. She was 13.
We're told they were on their way to the Mamba Academy for a basketball practice when the crash occurred. The Academy is in nearby Thousand Oaks.
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:47 PM   #170
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My firm had a plane for a couple of years. About a half-dozen of us were getting pilots licenses, etc...

I was a solo trip and a few solo landings from qualifying when a friend of a partner crashed his plane and barely survived. After some discussion we all came to the same conclusion - it isn't really 'if', it's 'when' and how badly. We sold it and all parties walked away.

In a lot of ways I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. You wanna know why flying cars aren't a thing that's likely to happen in several lifetimes? There's your answer.

Flying is a constant fight against physics and it takes so very little for tragedy to strike. If you're lucky you walk away but more often than not you don't.

Flying isn’t, but taking off and landing is
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:47 PM   #171
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I was talking to some friends just a few days ago about how I would never get on a helicopter if it’s up to me. I just hear about this shit way too often with famous people, let alone any normal person.

Man I could cry and I don’t even watch much basketball. It is that sad.
This. Just terrible.
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:47 PM   #172
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Yeah. Now confirming 13yo. Now I am worried with them not confirming the other girls alive.

Headed to the girls basketball game. Who would travel with them? Assistants? Friends?
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:47 PM   #173
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One of his daughters was reportedly on board.
Well shit.
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Old 01-26-2020, 02:48 PM   #174
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I was talking to some friends just a few days ago about how I would never get on a helicopter if it’s up to me. I just hear about this shit way too often with famous people, let alone any normal person.

Man I could cry and I don’t even watch much basketball. It is that sad.
If you have trouble on a plane it might be able to land safely. But if the rotors stop on a chopper it just turns into a falling rock.
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So often it's the smaller aircrafts, too. I'd be interested in seeing the data on how much more dangerous smaller aircrafts tend to be than larger commercial.

A couple of times when I was 18 or 19, a friend I went to high school with had his pilots license. One engine airplane. He used to fly us up to a casino in Minnesota because if you flew in they would give you a free buffet and $100 to play. Would never do that today.
This article is a bit old, but it claims 7 accidents per 100,000 flight hours for general aviation vs. 0.16 for commercial.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/o...te-Planes.html
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How did TMZ end up as the most accurate news source we have?
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I am assuming other names not released to contact their families. Because if all of them were Bryant's it would be posted?
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How did TMZ end up as the most accurate news source we have?
They have a lot of sources around LA, so not too surprised.
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Wow crazy. So many celebrities die in aircraft crashes. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Buddy Holly, Payne Stewart...

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My firm had a plane for a couple of years. About a half-dozen of us were getting pilots licenses, etc...

I was a solo trip and a few solo landings from qualifying when a friend of a partner crashed his plane and barely survived. After some discussion we all came to the same conclusion - it isn't really 'if', it's 'when' and how badly. We sold it and all parties walked away.

In a lot of ways I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. You wanna know why flying cars aren't a thing that's likely to happen in several lifetimes? There's your answer.

Flying is a constant fight against physics and it takes so very little for tragedy to strike. If you're lucky you walk away but more often than not you don't.
The guy I've worked with for the last 25 years has his pilot license and owns a Cessna 182. He has used it for years to go out to some of our remote job sites. The plane was built in 1967 and it terrifies me to ride in it. I know that they keep up on the maintenance but you can bet some of the innards are really getting up there in age and stress.

He doesn't fly as much now but still goes out 5-6 times a year. He's also 67 now so I have a pretty serious "No Fly" policy.
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