Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by Deebo19

Are you guys going to be nervous when the line inevitably shifts into the 49ers favor? You know after the "experts" start actually watching our games?

via GIPHY

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Overpaying the RB position as well.

No reason to ever play a RB that much. Put the money in the Oline.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Hern

Perfect scenario for me would be trading Jimmy for a 1st and throwing in extra picks to try and get Trevor Lawrence when he declares. Wishful thinking... but that’d be great.

So the dude goes to superbowl and you trade him? Um...I mean ok...

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by A8bil

Nice choices that have (mostly) worked out. Hill dropped (I thought) because of his off field issues, is that not the case. The 49ers took a few risky guys like that in recent years that did not work out (e.g., Reuben Foster). Wasted picks.

Dems da brakes.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Garropolo is the 9th highest paid QB currently, he will be a FA in 3 years.

I mean....if he is already the 9th highest paid guy and he is as good as you say he is...what do you think hes gonna want in 2023?

Oh, no doubt it will be higher if he continues to play well. But, I don't look that far down the road. Who knows, he may be willing to sign a team friendly contract. That's what Brady has done, right?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

So the dude goes to superbowl and you trade him? Um...I mean ok...

He's Alex Smith, though. I'd absolutely trade him while his stock is high. Send him to Miami or Dallas. Take the 1st, get the real QB.

[Iowanian]

There are 15 QBs in the league as good as Jimmy "the porn herp" G.....

....there is exactly 1 Patrick Mahomes. One.

[Hern]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

So the dude goes to superbowl and you trade him? Um...I mean ok...

Yes sir. Trade him while his value is high.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by A8bil

Yep. I would say that the 49ers DL gets pretty thin once you get past the main 4-- too many injuries this year at that position. Because I haven't watched that many KC games this year, how good are these guys at stringing out plays along the line? Other KC fans have said that the 49ers and Titans run a similar run scheme, but having looked at that a bit, I'm not sure it is true...the 49ers seem to force more East-West movement (than the Titans) before their backs cut. Henry seems to run more right off tackle with straight away blocking.

Chiefs had struggled without outside zone but have really turned that around a bit with Ragland being shifted into the starting role. As far as the DL is concerned I have little concern at all with their ability to keep the line moving East-West. Where my concern really comes is whether or not Hitchens can flow along with the play and remain aggressive enough to keep from getting hung in the wash.

He isn't a premier athlete so slowing him down a bit can be enough to take him out of a play and open a running lane. He has to really fight through the mess in the middle to ensure we remain gap sound and give the DBs (who are all very physical) enough time to hem the 9er RBs in. Ragland is showing better maneuverability this year but it will never truly be a strength so if you can find a way to have him attacking the line early enough in the play to clean some of that wash out for Hitchens to move freely, that could help.

The DL as currently constructed is criminally underrated. They aren't the weak sisters that their early-season performance against the run. You have to remember that fans and eventually their own teammates put these guys on blast for freelancing along the DL in week 5-6. From that point forward, when Mathieu called them all out publicly for playing for themselves, they've played exceptionally responsible football and it's led to massive improvements against the run.

They can still be beat off-tackle because the LBs just aren't that athletic, but the 49ers will have to execute and even a very good running team has 'negative' plays that only yield a yard or 2 when they're trying to run laterally. Especially when guys like Jones and Clark are able to penetrate early at times.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

And they've mortgaged their future

Yeah i mean they took a SERIOUS swing at winning the SB and put together a scary, scary team..and lost to Tom Brady.


They almost had to do it IMO....if they wouldve won that ring, no one would second guess them takeing that home run swing

[Hern]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

He's Alex Smith, though. I'd absolutely trade him while his stock is high. Send him to Miami or Dallas. Take the 1st, get the real QB.

Rabbs for the win. Exactly my thought process.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I read an article by John Middlekauff on The Athletic yesterday where he said Veach is as good of a talent evaluator as there is (and he worked with him in Philly).

Chiefs are in great hands with the way their operation is being run and this new CBA is coming at the perfect time to facilitate the Mahomes contract.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Ever heard of Brett Veach? And I know you're a homer but 'absolutely gutted' the rams is probably a bit of hyperbole. They had a down year but they will be in your face for YEARS to come. I mean youll have to pay garroppolo too right? So by your logic the niners are totally ****ed in a year or two? Right?

I thought it was Bart Vetch??

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

He's Alex Smith, though. I'd absolutely trade him while his stock is high. Send him to Miami or Dallas. Take the 1st, get the real QB.

I disagree. I think Jimmy G is a real QB. Not saying it isnt worth looking at a trade and all...but I like Jimmy G and I don't think he is alex smith. Alex smith is a bed-shitter in big situations. Jimmy G is a pretty cool calm guy.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It's the same system, different personnel.

9ers run it better and I think with more variety. But yes, both teams utilize a lot of outside zone and the Chiefs absolutely killed TNs.

In the process, though, they played their hands a bit. They were damn crafty in that game in how they set their alignment to appear to be set for strong-side contain but then at the snap they would oftentimes crash weak side knowing that the Titans would adjust to the alignment and end up running into the teeth of the DL.

We put it on film last week so I'd be surprised if the 49ers are caught as flat-footed by it as the Titans were. Spags will need to find a new wrinkle to try to get the 49ers incorrectly acting on a read key.