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Old 12-08-2019, 05:26 AM  
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Ward joins in calling out Bob Sutton

First, let me just say that the Star is putting out much, much better content this year with their new team.

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Ward is talking about a third-and-10 in overtime, when Patriots receiver Julian Edelman split wide to the right, then motioned toward slot receiver Phillip Dorsett at the snap. Ward followed Edelman, the snap timed so that Dorsett rubbed Ward and gave Edelman an extra step.

Tom Brady’s pass, of course, was completed. First down. Three plays later, another conversion. Three plays after that, the touchdown that ended the Chiefs’ season.

"I knew that was coming,” Ward says. “But I couldn’t do nothing about it.”

Ward means he could not stop it because of how he and his teammates were coached. The Patriots had run the exact same play on a third down earlier in the drive, on the other side of the field: Edelman split wide left, motioning toward Dorsett in the slot, his route aided by a rub, the pass completed for a first down.

"So I knew it was coming,” Ward continues. “I couldn’t do nothing about it because I was told to stay down. If I would’ve been like, ‘Nah, nah, nah, let’s in-and-out,’ it would’ve played out different. (If they) kick a field goal, miss or make it, Pat Mahomes goes down and scores a touchdown and we win the game and we’re in the Super Bowl.

“I was instructed to stay down, but I could’ve told (fellow cornerback Kendall) Fuller, ‘Man, let’s in-and-out.’ Because the same thing just happened on the other side.”

Ward pauses. Bob Sutton, then the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, had been clear in his directives on the Patriots’ fateful drive. Players lose jobs for freelancing.

“But I’m the one that’s playing,” Ward says. “I still could’ve overruled that, and told Fuller, ‘Let’s work together.’”

Another pause.

“Bob was ... man.”

One more pause.

“I ain’t going to say nothing about that.”
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:26 AM   #31
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The old man should of been fired after the debacle in Indy....2013...blowing a 28 point lead.
…..or after the Steelers all field goal playoff loss (hard to get too picky here, they didn't score a TD but I don't think they punted, either)

…..or most certainly after the Titans playoff debacle. That second half was 2013 Colts bad.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:34 AM   #32
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This is why Andy Reid makes you nervous. Everyone knew Bob should of been fired at least three years ago if not longer.

Why did Andy keep him? Loyalty, Andy’s own ego and inability to admit his mistake? Either way it cost the team and city a Super Bowl appearance so the Bob hatred will have a permanent place in Chiefs lore.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:47 AM   #33
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The most annoying part of this thread :

It's amazing how many people post "should of" instead of "should have".

It's "should've", which is a contraction for "should have".

For ****'s sake.

And before anyone accuses me of being a grammar nazi, I'm not. I make mistakes in context all the time. But "should of" instead of "should've" is fifth grade shit.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:52 AM   #34
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Is it any coincidence that the Atlanta Falcons suck (even more) ever since Sutton was hired on as an assistant there? I think not.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:52 AM   #35
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Is it any coincidence that the Atlanta Falcons suck (even more) ever since Sutton was hired on as an assistant there? I think not.
I thought they sucked last year, too?
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:53 AM   #36
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Ward was a rookie. No way he goes against what Grandpa Bob tells him to do
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…..or after the Steelers all field goal playoff loss (hard to get too picky here, they didn't score a TD but I don't think they punted, either)

…..or most certainly after the Titans playoff debacle. That second half was 2013 Colts bad.
Andy/Alex sucked hard root there, too.

In fact, Andy seems incapable of beating the Titans. I'll be scared shitless if they come back to Arrowhead.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:55 AM   #38
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…..or after the Steelers all field goal playoff loss (hard to get too picky here, they didn't score a TD but I don't think they punted, either)

…..or most certainly after the Titans playoff debacle. That second half was 2013 Colts bad.
The playoff loss to the Steelers is on the offense. Could the defense have played a bit better? Sure. But you never get perfection. Competence is your minimum requirement and the D gave us that for that game. The offense far from it however.
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I thought they sucked last year, too?
Yeah, they were 7-9 I believe. 3-9 this year thus far.
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The playoff loss to the Steelers is on the offense. Could the defense have played a bit better? Sure. But you never get perfection. Competence is your minimum requirement and the D gave us that for that game. The offense far from it however.
Right. Score a TD.

But, again, to be fair, the play where Tyreek streaked downfield wide open on a fly pattern and Alex Smith just didn't have the physical ability to get him the ball is what got Mahomes drafted.

Guaranteed.

Clay has a gif of that play.
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He should of been fired earlier but it is what it is. Theirs no point in playing the should of, could of, would of game...
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The playoff loss to the Steelers is on the offense. Could the defense have played a bit better? Sure. But you never get perfection. Competence is your minimum requirement and the D gave us that for that game. The offense far from it however.
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Right. Score a TD.

But, again, to be fair, the play where Tyreek streaked downfield wide open on a fly pattern and Alex Smith just didn't have the physical ability to get him the ball is what got Mahomes drafted.

Guaranteed.

Clay has a gif of that play.
Correct, both of you.

And let's not forget the phantom holding call on Fisher during the two point try, either. I don't know what's worse, that call or the non-fumble when Derick Johnson just obliterated Mariota on his sack. Still to this day how those calls went down makes no sense to me.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:10 PM   #43
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He should of been fired earlier but it is what it is. Theirs no point in playing the should of, could of, would of game...
Right. I just see it as a type of group therapy talking about it, lol. But yes, living in the past does no good, especially when we think about this team in particular. We have Patrick ****ing Mahomes now, and it's past time to write a better story with a kid like him slinging it for us. And it starts today.
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Correct, both of you.

And let's not forget the phantom holding call on Fisher during the two point try, either. I don't know what's worse, that call or the non-fumble when Derick Johnson just obliterated Mariota on his sack. Still to this day how those calls went down makes no sense to me.
I mean, I know EXACTLY how those calls get made...
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Hopefully this was weeks ago - Ward needs to have his nose in the playbook, not f'ing around on shitty Twitter.
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