Chiefs Chiefs defensive improvements after eight games - Page 10

Hammock Parties · 10-29-2019, 05:16 PM

Chiefs have made strides. We just need to keep getting a little better and get healthy. Flame away.

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**Lzen** · 10-30-2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Legit improvement will be when they can make a clutch stop and get off the field in a situation like the last 5 minutes of the game vs. Green Bay.

This. Plus I'd like to see what is the TOP comparison.

There is improvement over last year. You can definitely see that. But it's still not good enough.

TEX · 10-30-2019, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Wrong. Had Mahomes against the Texans. Punted with just over 5 to go.

Yep. And never saw the ball again...Packer game - rinse / repeat. Played not to lose, instead of to win, and got the same result.

TEX · 10-30-2019, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Gave up a whole six points in the second half.

Sure. Now, what was the TOP again during that stretch?

RunKC · 10-30-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. And never saw the ball again...Packer game - rinse / repeat. Played not to lose, instead of to win, and got the same result.

We lost to the Packers without several key players, a missed easy FG, a horrible fumble, a Matt Moore overthrew missed TD to Kelce and 2 insane catches by the Packers.

If Pat played that game healthy, we win.

Do you know what our team would have done if we were as healthy as them with Pat, Fish, Clark and Jones back? We would have piss pounded their ass into the dirt.

This team has lost games bc of our best players being injured. The same circumstances apply to every NFL team except the Pats who play a college schedule this season.

kcclone · 10-30-2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. And never saw the ball again...Packer game - rinse / repeat. Played not to lose, instead of to win, and got the same result.

Yeah, some of this is coaching decisions. I sure hope that if the offense gets healthy, Reid will be more aggressive in tight games against good QB's in regards to not punting in 4th and short situations, etc.

I think it's clear our defense is better than last year, but I'm not confident they're good enough to get a game winning stop against a good QB in the playoffs.

TEX · 10-30-2019, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We lost to the Packers without several key players, a missed easy FG, a horrible fumble, a Matt Moore overthrew missed TD to Kelce and 2 insane catches by the Packers.

If Pat played that game healthy, we win.

Do you know what our team would have done if we were as healthy as them with Pat, Fish, Clark and Jones back? We would have piss pounded their ass into the dirt.

This team has lost games bc of our best players being injured. The same circumstances apply to every NFL team except the Pats who play a college schedule this season.

You're probably right, BUT that's not the point. The point is that the decision to punt at the end was still the same as the Texans game, and it was a bad one in my opinion. One would think that since Reid made the same decision two weeks prior, and it proved to be wrong, that he would not make the same mistake again.

Chris Meck · 10-30-2019, 09:43 AM

Rational post: The defense is improved and getting more solid each week despite having massive injuries.

CP-They're not the '85 Bears. Everybody sucks, fire Veach and Reid.

bobbything · 10-30-2019, 09:56 AM

I see the defense improving in certain areas. That said, I still stick to what I said. They need to get off the field at the end of the game. The Indy game looked more like the Pitt playoff game to me. Held teams to field goals, offense sputtered, defense still gave up 9 minute drives to close out the game.

Points matter, possessions matter more for this team.

I've seen this movie before...if we have any chance of making a Super Bowl we are going to need to play from ahead every game or the defense is going to have to go out and get a key stop. That's a heavy lift.

Hammock Parties · 10-30-2019, 10:02 AM

It's been eight games. Brand new scheme, brand new players. You have to let it all come together. At least they aren't getting ****ing destroyed by deep passes this year.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-30-2019, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You're probably right, BUT that's not the point. The point is that the decision to punt at the end was still the same as the Texans game, and it was a bad one in my opinion. One would think that since Reid made the same decision two weeks prior, and it proved to be wrong, that he would not make the same mistake again.

This could be argued all day long but I agree with the decision. If we had failed to gain the three yards and a first down then it was a short distance for Rogers to get to field goal and make it a 2 score game. Then it would be game over and I know thats what Andy had to be thinking.

Our defense should have done their job.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 10-30-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It's been eight games. Brand new scheme, brand new players. You have to let it all come together. At least they aren't getting ****ing destroyed by deep passes this year.

That’s because we actually have competent Safeties and CBs

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 10-30-2019, 10:04 AM

Here’s a fun fact. Ever since Mahomes first start in Denver to now we havnt lost more than a one possession margin

Hammock Parties · 10-30-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Here’s a fun fact. Ever since Mahomes first start in Denver to now we havnt lost more than a one possession margin

reid sux

Talisman · 10-30-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

This could be argued all day long but I agree with the decision. If we had failed to gain the three yards and a first down then it was a short distance for Rogers to get to field goal and make it a 2 score game. Then it would be game over and I know thats what Andy had to be thinking.

Our defense should have done their job.

They still would have needed a couple of first downs to make it a gimmie FG and a few first downs sealed the deal anyway. Lose by 7, lose by 10. Does it matter? You don't take the ball away from the strength of your team to rely on the gassed question mark for your team and in the process give it to one of the best QBs in the game. It was a bad call.

VAChief · 10-30-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Wrong. Had Mahomes against the Texans. Punted with just over 5 to go.

Yes, it was also 4th and 13 in the Texans game vs. 4th and 3. I also said a "healthy" Mahomes. It's just my opinion. Reid does some funky things at times, but the flow of that game I think he would have gone for it with Mahomes.

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bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	I see the defense improving in certain areas. That said, I still stick to what I said. They need to get off the field at the end of the game. The Indy game looked more like the Pitt playoff game to me. Held teams to field goals, offense sputtered, defense still gave up 9 minute drives to close out the game. Points matter, possessions matter more for this team. I've seen this movie before...if we have any chance of making a Super Bowl we are going to need to play from ahead every game or the defense is going to have to go out and get a key stop. That's a heavy lift. __________________ "It is not enough that I succeed; everyone else must fail."
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