Cornerbacks 2019 - Page 3

O.city · 02-01-2019, 01:36 PM

Figure we should have a thread just for this. Who you guys like? Early, mid round, etc.

ChiefoftheKeyboard · 02-13-2019, 08:30 AM

I think they'll look at Lonnie Johnson Jr from Kentucky. 29 is high for him, but he has a ton of potential, plus he played for Matt House who will know the inside scoop on him. He also had a great senior bowl and the chiefs love drafting ppl from there.

ChiefoftheKeyboard · 02-13-2019, 08:38 AM

Amani Oruwariye is also another guy I hope they look at. I think murphy and baker will be long gone by 29

tmax63 · 02-13-2019, 08:51 AM

I don't remember where I saw it but some former NFL player did a rating on CB and S. He thought the top 6 ranked safeties would be better than what the Chiefs have and the top 7 ranked CB's would be an improvement as well. That makes me not real picky as to who the Chiefs want and if they want to trade around to get another pick or two I won't be climbing up on the window ledge.

htismaqe · 02-13-2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard

I think they'll look at Lonnie Johnson Jr from Kentucky. 29 is high for him, but he has a ton of potential, plus he played for Matt House who will know the inside scoop on him. He also had a great senior bowl and the chiefs love drafting ppl from there.

He's a guy I think falls to the end of the 2nd. He's really long (measured 6'2" at the Senior Bowl) and would be good in a press scheme with his arm length.

gonefishin53 · 02-13-2019, 09:48 AM

Isaiah Johnson, Houston. 6'2'' 207 lbs, 33 5/8'' arms. Switched from WR to CB after sophomore year. With good coaching, he has the size, length, speed and hips to be a good fit at press man CB in a cover 3 defense. Currently rated 3-5th round pick on most boards.

Kiimo · 02-13-2019, 12:42 PM

The more I watch Vandy CB Joejuan Williams, the more I like him. Wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up being the best CB in the class.
— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 13, 2019

Mecca · 02-13-2019, 01:10 PM

CB's all over the place so far, I've seen Baker as high as 10. I've seen Williams in the 1st and at the bottom of the 2nd, there's no consistency.

TambaBerry · 02-13-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The more I watch Vandy CB Joejuan Williams, the more I like him. Wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up being the best CB in the class.
— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 13, 2019

i dont see it

TambaBerry · 02-13-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard

Amani Oruwariye is also another guy I hope they look at. I think murphy and baker will be long gone by 29

he is who i want the most, I think he will be the best cb

staylor26 · 02-13-2019, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The more I watch Vandy CB Joejuan Williams, the more I like him. Wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up being the best CB in the class.
— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 13, 2019

Joejuan, Amani, Ya-Sin, Johnson Jr.

One of these guys will be available in the 2nd, and that makes me feel a lot better about possibly going in a different direction at 29. Still hoping CB is BPA though.

KChiefs1 · 02-14-2019, 08:31 PM

My favorites in order:

1. Greedy Williams
2. Byron Murphy
3. Deandre Baker

DJ's left nut · 02-15-2019, 04:04 PM

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CB's all over the place so far, I've seen Baker as high as 10. I've seen Williams in the 1st and at the bottom of the 2nd, there's no consistency.

Absolutely none at all.

You'll see some people with J. Williams in the early 3rd, others with him in the 1st. I've seen Baker go in the top 10 to as low as the late 30s. I think I saw Mullen slip to the 3rd and be like the 7th or 8th CB off the board. Even the consensus 'top' CB in the draft (Greedy Williams) I have seen falling into the late 20s on occasion.

I don't think anyone has a real feel for the first 8-10 CBs in this draft.

Like Staylor, the number of relatively similarly situated CBs in this draft makes me not care all that much if we don't go that route with 29. And man, it sure presents a great opportunity to double dip at the back of the round and get two bites at the apple. If we took a duo like Ya-Sin and Johnson Jr back there, you have to think at least one of them develops into the kind of immediate impact player we need.

I don't see a truly elite CB prospect in this class but I see a lot of guys who can probably help, especially over a long-enough timeline (like, by December). That's why I'm not as eager to take a high floor guy like Baker as early as many are.

I think we can make due for awhile much in the same way we did with Scandrick until Ward was ready to play. It's not a perfect spot to find yourself in, but if it yields a higher ceiling player in the 1st, I think that's the way to go. And if your 'make due' situation is Fuller/Ward out wide while someone like Smith takes lumps but learns from the slot...well again, it's not ideal but there's a silver lining there in that you at least get some player development time that may/may not bear fruit long-term. If it doesn't, c'est la vie - you still have the CB duo you drafted to tag in sometime later in the season.

Chris Meck · 02-15-2019, 04:19 PM

we've got a #1 and 2 #2s.

I'd LOVE it if we got two CB's and a S out of that.

As we're likely to keep either Houston in a restructure OR Ford on a tag year. If we tag and trade Ford, I'd still love it, and add in a DE with Ford's pick (probably another #2) Then you could draft PBA the rest of the way and be in a really good shape.

kcbubb · 02-17-2019, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

i dont see it

On joejuan, Vandy Cb... Go watch the Vandy vs ole miss game and you’ll see it. He played well against their wrs. I think he could do well against big wrs but get burned by smaller ones. He’s instinctive and a leader. The nfl won’t be too much for him. He got a big int against Arkansas to help Vandy win that game. He’s a playmaker.

kccrow · 02-17-2019, 08:12 PM

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On joejuan, Vandy Cb... Go watch the Vandy vs ole miss game and you’ll see it. He played well against their wrs. I think he could do well against big wrs but get burned by smaller ones. He’s instinctive and a leader. The nfl won’t be too much for him. He got a big int against Arkansas to help Vandy win that game. He’s a playmaker.

That's my issue with big corners and a reason I don't have Oruwariye rated any higher than I do. I'm tired of watching this team have corners that get beat by smaller receivers in the playoffs. Edelman. Brown. Etc. Give me a corner that might struggle against the few 6'4"-6'5" receivers that are actually worth a **** that I might have to roll a safety over the top of than try to compensate for corners that can't cover simple slants.

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02-13-2019, 08:30 AM	#31
ChiefoftheKeyboard Starter Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $10000400	I think they'll look at Lonnie Johnson Jr from Kentucky. 29 is high for him, but he has a ton of potential, plus he played for Matt House who will know the inside scoop on him. He also had a great senior bowl and the chiefs love drafting ppl from there.
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ChiefoftheKeyboard Starter Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $10000400	Amani Oruwariye is also another guy I hope they look at. I think murphy and baker will be long gone by 29
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tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $573600	I don't remember where I saw it but some former NFL player did a rating on CB and S. He thought the top 6 ranked safeties would be better than what the Chiefs have and the top 7 ranked CB's would be an improvement as well. That makes me not real picky as to who the Chiefs want and if they want to trade around to get another pick or two I won't be climbing up on the window ledge. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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gonefishin53 Starter Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $10011999	Isaiah Johnson, Houston. 6'2'' 207 lbs, 33 5/8'' arms. Switched from WR to CB after sophomore year. With good coaching, he has the size, length, speed and hips to be a good fit at press man CB in a cover 3 defense. Currently rated 3-5th round pick on most boards.
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02-13-2019, 12:42 PM	#36
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $2058742	The more I watch Vandy CB Joejuan Williams, the more I like him. Wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up being the best CB in the class. — Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 13, 2019
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-462950	CB's all over the place so far, I've seen Baker as high as 10. I've seen Williams in the 1st and at the bottom of the 2nd, there's no consistency.
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02-15-2019, 04:19 PM	#43
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1115090	we've got a #1 and 2 #2s. I'd LOVE it if we got two CB's and a S out of that. As we're likely to keep either Houston in a restructure OR Ford on a tag year. If we tag and trade Ford, I'd still love it, and add in a DE with Ford's pick (probably another #2) Then you could draft PBA the rest of the way and be in a really good shape.
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