Cornerbacks 2019 - Page 2

O.city · 02-01-2019, 01:36 PM

Figure we should have a thread just for this. Who you guys like? Early, mid round, etc.

staylor26 · 02-01-2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

I'm holding out hope for Nasir Adderley in the 1st and a CB in the 2nd.

I’ve said it before, but if we don’t go CB I think it’ll be safety. DB either way.

Adderly would be at the top of my list for sure.

O.city · 02-01-2019, 07:29 PM

Maybe just me but I am kind of tired of small school cornerbacks

Give be the high end big school guys

Chief Northman · 02-01-2019, 08:00 PM

So I’m wondering how much the metrics change with Spagnuolo running the defense now?

Dorsey/Sutton always targeted 6’0 minimum height, length and a primary skill of being able to play press man. Spagnuolo is more multiple in coverage. Will he and Veach be as stubborn about measurables?

Baker is a good case study here: the dude is 5’10” at best, but he is fluid, smart, and steps up in run defend. This kid has some DAWG to him - I love his game. He lacks physical measurables that would have been non-starters for a Dorsey pick. I’m intetested to see Spagnuolo’s influence in this regard.

Personally, I’d love Deandre Baker or Byron Murphy as the Chiefs 1st round selection - can’t go wrong either route. I also am really intrigued by DE Jaylon Ferguson. I like the safety Adderly, but I’m not entirely sold he will have the impact these others will have.

staylor26 · 02-01-2019, 08:15 PM

Baker is listed 5’11” and it looks accurate IMO

Also, aside from Ward, all 3 of our corners last year were under 6’0”

O.city · 02-01-2019, 08:54 PM

5”10, 5”11

I don’t care about that. If he’s fluid and athletic and has good ball skills sign me up

htismaqe · 02-02-2019, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Maybe just me but I am kind of tired of small school cornerbacks

Give be the high end big school guys

Adderley isn't a CB so I'm not sure if you're referencing him. He was at Delaware due to academic issues. He would have played at a power 5 school but just screwed around too much.

htismaqe · 02-02-2019, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Baker is listed 5’11” and it looks accurate IMO

Also, aside from Ward, all 3 of our corners last year were under 6’0”

His NFL profile has him at 5'10", 185.

Wilson8 · 02-02-2019, 01:15 AM

The NFL Combine 40 times is a big influence of the round where cornerbacks get drafted.

Baker, Mullen, or Murphy would all be good picks for KC.

A CB I did not know about until seeing him in the Senior Bowl is a Topeka kid that played at Washburn University, Corey Ballentine. He won the Cliff Harris Award for best small school defensive player. He is 6-0, 195 and was also a kick returner and has good speed and can mirror wide receivers. If you want to watch him you can watch Senior Bowl practices, Senior Bowl, and there are a lot of Washburn games available to watch. He does make some mistakes but he is a good athlete and can recover from it. I've seen him projected as a 4th round pick which maybe we can get if we end up doing some trades.

Wilson8 · 02-02-2019, 01:31 AM

Senior Bowl measurements for Ballentine - height 5113, weight 188, hand 9 2/8, arm 31 7/8, wingspan 76 5/8

O.city · 02-02-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Adderley isn't a CB so I'm not sure if you're referencing him. He was at Delaware due to academic issues. He would have played at a power 5 school but just screwed around too much.

For some reason I feel like safeties from smaller programs transition easier

I just want a corner that’s ready to go that’s not overwhelmed by the jump in competition

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-02-2019, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

For some reason I feel like safeties from smaller programs transition easier

I just want a corner that’s ready to go that’s not overwhelmed by the jump in competition

From the sounds of it, Baker and Murphy are quite pro ready.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-11-2019, 09:45 AM

Excited to see these guys test at the combine. Feels like a lot of the corners are being pushed down draft board because of questions about athleticism, but I’m looking at a lot of these guys and I just see gamers. Guys like Baker, Murphy, Amani, etc., they just look and feel like players to me. Especially in the right system.

Kiimo · 02-12-2019, 06:32 PM

I'm all in on Deandre Baker, because he fits Spagnolo's scheme.

staylor26 · 02-12-2019, 06:35 PM

I love Murphy and Baker at 29, but I think the forgotten guy is Mullen. I think he has a great combine and gets back in the conversation.

UChieffyBugger · 02-13-2019, 05:54 AM

I think getting another tall cb alongside Ward might be the way to go when you consider we face those big wr's from the Chargers twice a year.

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02-01-2019, 07:29 PM	#17
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02-01-2019, 08:00 PM	#18
Chief Northman MVP Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Casino cash: $6790890	So I’m wondering how much the metrics change with Spagnuolo running the defense now? Dorsey/Sutton always targeted 6’0 minimum height, length and a primary skill of being able to play press man. Spagnuolo is more multiple in coverage. Will he and Veach be as stubborn about measurables? Baker is a good case study here: the dude is 5’10” at best, but he is fluid, smart, and steps up in run defend. This kid has some DAWG to him - I love his game. He lacks physical measurables that would have been non-starters for a Dorsey pick. I’m intetested to see Spagnuolo’s influence in this regard. Personally, I’d love Deandre Baker or Byron Murphy as the Chiefs 1st round selection - can’t go wrong either route. I also am really intrigued by DE Jaylon Ferguson. I like the safety Adderly, but I’m not entirely sold he will have the impact these others will have.
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02-01-2019, 08:15 PM	#19
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1860960	Baker is listed 5’11” and it looks accurate IMO Also, aside from Ward, all 3 of our corners last year were under 6’0”
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02-01-2019, 08:54 PM	#20
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-505936	5”10, 5”11 I don’t care about that. If he’s fluid and athletic and has good ball skills sign me up
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02-02-2019, 01:15 AM	#23
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2947557	The NFL Combine 40 times is a big influence of the round where cornerbacks get drafted. Baker, Mullen, or Murphy would all be good picks for KC. A CB I did not know about until seeing him in the Senior Bowl is a Topeka kid that played at Washburn University, Corey Ballentine. He won the Cliff Harris Award for best small school defensive player. He is 6-0, 195 and was also a kick returner and has good speed and can mirror wide receivers. If you want to watch him you can watch Senior Bowl practices, Senior Bowl, and there are a lot of Washburn games available to watch. He does make some mistakes but he is a good athlete and can recover from it. I've seen him projected as a 4th round pick which maybe we can get if we end up doing some trades.
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02-02-2019, 01:31 AM	#24
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2947557	Senior Bowl measurements for Ballentine - height 5113, weight 188, hand 9 2/8, arm 31 7/8, wingspan 76 5/8
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02-11-2019, 09:45 AM	#27
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6649447	Excited to see these guys test at the combine. Feels like a lot of the corners are being pushed down draft board because of questions about athleticism, but I’m looking at a lot of these guys and I just see gamers. Guys like Baker, Murphy, Amani, etc., they just look and feel like players to me. Especially in the right system.
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02-12-2019, 06:32 PM	#28
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $2058742	I'm all in on Deandre Baker, because he fits Spagnolo's scheme.
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02-12-2019, 06:35 PM	#29
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1860960	I love Murphy and Baker at 29, but I think the forgotten guy is Mullen. I think he has a great combine and gets back in the conversation.
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UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $-889600	I think getting another tall cb alongside Ward might be the way to go when you consider we face those big wr's from the Chargers twice a year.
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