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Interesting idea with the Ford trade. That's the equivalent of the Jets giving up a 2nd and... a 4th? I might prefer just an extra 2nd at that point. I have no idea what the equivalent value is.
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I can't see Andy dumping his lover senior citizen coordinator, or them going away from running lots of nickel/dime so 'switching' to a 4-3 would be irrelevant.
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Roughly a mid-first, about 900 points to get from 30 to 7. If Bosa and Ferrell are off the board at that point, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility. The key would be that the Jets get the pass rusher they've been desperate to find for what seems like a decade, plus they retain a first to continue to build. Chiefs get up at the top to get the best linebacker to enter the draft since Keuchly and shore up that sieve on the inside.
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If he continues on the path of futility he's on this year, I can certainly see it happening. Running a 4-3 doesn't mean you stop running alot of nickel. I could, however, see Andy wanting a coordinator that knows how to scheme with a 4-man rush and cover for secondary deficiencies. Fewell is the New England slayer, and I really don't understand why he doesn't have a DC job right now.
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At this point I want to do anything possible to get the last Bama/MSU DL on the board in rd 1.
Those guys look like monsters.
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I’m sorry but if you get a top ten pick, it better be a stud DL, a pass rusher, or a cornerback. An elite player at any one of those positions is more valuable than an elite ILB.
ILB just is not worth a top ten. |
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Reminds me of the 1996 draft with Woods/Tongue
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In my opinion, the choice would come down to stud DT versus stud ILB. I think Bosa and Ferrell are going top 3 and I do project 1 and 3 respectively at this point if it's the Raiders and 49ers in those spots. I have a QB to the Giants sandwiched in between. After that, there is a significant drop off in edge talent even to Josh Allen who is pretty good. I don't have a CB rated as a top 10 talent to this point, although that rating is far from anything at this point. The closest is Greedy Williams. Now, the big argument is DT in my opinion, and there are some monsters this year. That said, I think the defensive tackle position is pretty stacked for the Chiefs IF they do make a move to a 4-3. If I didn't project the Chiefs moving to a 4-3 and I'm projecting Speaks to remain at OLB, then I'd be all-in on a DT/DE prospect. That said, I probably also wouldn't be trading Dee Ford away to get here. So, for me, I'm taking the best ILB prospect that I've seen since Patrick Willis coming out. The reasoning I have is that I think the Chiefs weakest spot on the defense is at linebacker. They struggle in coverage and they struggle coming up in run support. This team needs a leader, a play caller, and an enforcer on the inside. They lack one. White is exactly that type of player. He can cover, he's stout, he's one of the quickest, most decisive linebackers I've ever watched.
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Andy has retorted that Brett wears him down with Veach's obsession with certain prospects like Mahomes and Fletcher Cox.
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Darby just tore his ACL last night, so that's probably out of play.
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I haven't seen White play enough to say this is a bad choice, but I will say that White had better truly be a once in a decade kind of ILB and not just the best ILB in this year's draft. Because you're either layering Hitchens and his $9 million cap figure in 2019 or you're drafting a sub-package player in White for a year. If all he is is 2019's best ILB, then wait until 2020 to get your ILB and move on from Hitchens then while getting a desperately needed CB in 2019. In the limited amount of time I've watched LSU, I've actually liked their OTHER corner that nobody talks about much as much as Williams; Fulton. I don't know if he'll skyrocket up draft boards or not but man he looks dynamic. There are remarkable tools there. Bottome line is that I just don't see a way around absolutely having to get a new corner. I didn't like the idea of paying market price for Darby even before he got injured. Middle-class corners are fool's gold, IMO. Coach those guys up; develop them or scheme for them. You don't pay for them, IMO. The idea of franchising/trading Ford is an interesting one, but I think I might just prefer paying him, keeping the pass-rush as dynamic as it is and supplementing the secondary through the draft.
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