Ron Torbort should be fired

[Chief Northman]

Atrocious job by Torbort and his crew today:

- Atrocious spots of the ball
- Missed holdings on Browns receivers in red zone
- Dee Ford strip sack and recovery taken away on a clean play nobody flagged
- Chiefs decline Cleveland penalty, CLOCK SHOULD BE RUNNING. Torbort ****s up and misinterprets situation moving Chiefs out of FG range and costing them a timeout.

Quit propping up shit franchises NFL. Browns made their own bed. They best lie in it.

Horrible.

[Hammock Parties]

The ruling they used is wrong, though.

Mahomes WASN'T trying to run time off the clock.

The ruling that should have been used:

A.R. 8.29 Second-and-10 on B20. Quarterback deliberately throws the ball out of bounds to stop the game clock.

Ruling: The pass was not thrown away to prevent loss of yardage. A’s ball third-and-10 on B20.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Now if this is real, that is clear writing stating where they got their ruling and I would say they were correct. A provision should be included on the rules site, but if this is something that NFL teams are provided then this was handled correctly.

Correct.

[Hammock Parties]

Basically all this proves is NFL refs are inconsistent ****tards.

And in a game where they literally gave Cleveland a bonus half yard on a 4th down spot to start the game...they also ****ed the Chiefs again at the end of the half.

Because that was the plan from the beginning.

[Flying High D]

Does anybody know what Mahomes intention was?

[suzzer99]

He thought the game clock was going to start on the refs whistle.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The ruling they used is wrong, though.

Mahomes WASN'T trying to run time off the clock.

The ruling that should have been used:

I'll agree to that; that crew sucked the balls of old men who piss themselves in nursing homes for their weekly public service.

They weren't trying to run time off the clock; they didn't realize that the ****ing clock wasn't going to start when the refs wound the play clock...

Which is on Reid, Kafka, and to a lesser extent, Mahomes.

Mahomes just screwed the pooch and got the correct penalty, but the refs fell backwards into it - it was a MISTAKE. Classic Full Reidtard clock management...thank GOD it was against Cleveland in the regular season.

[DaFace]

I'm not sure if anyone else is still confused about the 10-second runoff like I was, but just for the record, I looked it up, and that was called correctly too.

The issue is that the clock was moving WHEN THE PENALTY OCCURRED (as in, when the spike happened). It doesn't matter if the clock was stopped before the play because the clock started when Mahomes snapped the ball.

I really don't think that what we saw was really in the spirit of those rules, and it's clearly a rare situation, but technically the refs did everything correctly in this situation.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

He thought the game clock was going to start on the refs whistle.

Correct.

[Flying High D]

If the ref hadn’t started the clock or blew his whistle to start play how could be any penalty other that a false start?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm not sure if anyone else is still confused about the 10-second runoff like I was, but just for the record, I looked it up, and that was called correctly too.

The issue is that the clock was moving WHEN THE PENALTY OCCURRED (as in, when the spike happened). It doesn't matter if the clock was stopped before the play because the clock started when Mahomes snapped the ball.

I really don't think that what we saw was really in the spirit of those rules, and it's clearly a rare situation, but technically the refs did everything correctly in this situation.

Nope, they did it all correct.

It's on Mahomes, Reid, and the OC/QB coach to scream into Mahomes's ear piece NOT TO SPIKE.

Did Mahomes make the mistake thinking the game clock would start with the play clock?

Or did Reid go Full Reidtard and tell someone in the chain to spike the ball??

That's the REAL question.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Flying High D

If the ref hadn’t started the clock or blew his whistle to start play how could be any penalty other that a false start?

Ref blew the whistle and started the play clock.

Someone posted the video link about a page ago. Check it out...

[Hammock Parties]

Actually, that's a very good point.

Reid and Mahomes came out looking fairly dumb on this.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Actually, that's a very good point.

Reid and Mahomes came out looking fairly dumb on this.

100%

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Actually, that's a very good point.

Reid and Mahomes came out looking fairly dumb on this.

To be fair, I find all of the rules about when the clock does and does not run to be overly complex and somewhat nonsensical.

But yeah, Reid should know the rules. That's definitely on the coaches.

[RunKC]

Chiefs got some breaks from these guys too.

Dumbass Eric Murray should have been called OPI in the end zone giving them 1st and goal from the 1.
Ron Parker’s dumbass is damn lucky he wasn’t flagged on Chris Jones sack. Jones was clearly holding him on the sack (smart play by him) as the play was dead and Parker’s dumbass comes out of nowhere to helmet-to-helmet hit Baker.

The refs were awful today but the bigger problem is Andy not controlling this team. We were the 3rd worst penalized team before today. It’s been a big problem all season.