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Old 09-08-2018, 11:03 PM  
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***OFFICIAL Chiefs vs Chargers Game Day Thread***
At long last, an incomparable and unparalleled day is upon us, Planeteers.

The Patrick Mahomes II Era begins with this game. May the Bolts fizzle and sputter as expected and may the New Chiefs begin their rise to greatness in dramatic fashion.

In lieu of a bunch of secret spoiler deals, I have composed a brief poetism in honor of the occasion. May it meet with your approval. Ahem ...

There once was a kid named Mahomes
Who had truly unique chromosomes
The Bolts were aghast
When the Chiefs scored so fast
And Mahomes incapacitated their ohms

There you have it, Planeteers. Go Chiefs!

(Sorry if re-post.)
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:47 PM   #2611
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Eh, coaching at this point trumps talent imo
Baloney. The best defensive coordinator in the game isn’t going to come in here and fix this. They lack talent on the back end and have zero pass rush. NOBODY would be successful with this crew.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:47 PM   #2612
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I don’t believe that was the argument at hand.
A win is a WIN
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:48 PM   #2613
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The scheme is so bad, it was the 2nd and 3rd-best scoring defense in the NFL two years ago. Players make plays. That’s the NFL.

I can’t believe anybody that’s watched football for any length of time would think differently. It’s completely obvious what the issue is.
You'll have to excuse Superturtle.

He's prone to emotional outbursts that don't make much rational sense.

As you see in this thread...
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:48 PM   #2614
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Good enough to win!
Eh, not really. The Chargers dropped multiple passes that would have been HUGE gains, including at least one TD that I recall. And Rivers still threw for 424 yards. Would have been over 500 without those drops, and the Chargers would have likely at least tied the game, if not won it. The Chiefs also allowed 5.6 yards per rush.

Really, really, extraordinarily terrible.
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Coaching has a large part in making players. Sutton has developed 2 players that are worth anything resembling a shot. Peters and Jones. One of them is gone.
Sutton is coordinator, not a position coach. He doesn’t develop players, that’s just silly.

And which players would he develop anyway. To watch this place on draft day, they all suck and are wasted picks right away so what’s he gonna do?
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Baloney. The best defensive coordinator in the game isn’t going to come in here and fix this. They lack talent on the back end and have zero pass rush. NOBODY would be successful with this crew.
He's part of the reason we're in this mess to begin with.
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Baloney. The best defensive coordinator in the game isn’t going to come in here and fix this. They lack talent on the back end and have zero pass rush. NOBODY would be successful with this crew.
Coaching is as important now as it’s ever been.

They’re lacking some talent up front but they don’t exactly get put in great spots scheme wise
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In the case that this isn’t complete sarcasm -

Sutton has reigned over two of the most epic defensive collapses in playoff history. He can eat a bag of dicks.
I recall one of those 'collapses' included an offense that didn't score a single point in the 2nd half.

Not one single solitary ****ing point.

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Sutton is coordinator, not a position coach. He doesn’t develop players, that’s just silly.

And which players would he develop anyway. To watch this place on draft day, they all suck and are wasted picks right away so what’s he gonna do?
The defensive coordinator is responsible for coordinating the defensive unit of the team, including practice and game planning and management. In addition they are responsible for coordination of assistant coaches in each defensive position.

Yeah, I don't think it's much of a stretch to hold Sutton responsible for the lack of developed talent under his watch.
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Baloney. The best defensive coordinator in the game isn’t going to come in here and fix this. They lack talent on the back end and have zero pass rush. NOBODY would be successful with this crew.
Truth.

Sutton's defense carried Sanchez and the Jets to 2 straight AFCCGs.

Mark. ****ing. Sanchez.

Of course, they had an in-his-prime Revis with Sheldon Richardson et al, in other words, they had good players.
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The chiefs won a game today that was never really close and I come here to check it out and this place is bleeding everywhere

Jesus Christ, enjoy it a little bit
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Jesus Christ, enjoy it a little bit
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Ford was a step short every time when he did get past the OT which he struggled with his piss poor technique
We were extremely erratic in the pass rush department. 55 needs a solid, dependable, effective, inside move (and needed it for a long time).

If your front 7 has trouble getting to Rivers, you're going to have real issues with young, mobile QBs, I'm afraid.

I can't wait to see the All-22 (wasn't up a few minutes ago), but Mitch and "No Doubt About It" mentioned several times that we were being held and the refs were ignoring it.

As of now, however, one has to acknowledge that it's a concern.

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The defensive coordinator is responsible for coordinating the defensive unit of the team, including practice and game planning and management. In addition they are responsible for coordination of assistant coaches in each defensive position.

Yeah, I don't think it's much of a stretch to hold Sutton responsible for the lack of developed talent under his watch.
Do you blame John Dorsey at all? How about Veach?

I'd love to hear how it's 'all Sutton's fault.'
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Baloney. The best defensive coordinator in the game isn’t going to come in here and fix this. They lack talent on the back end and have zero pass rush. NOBODY would be successful with this crew.
Bullshit I’m tired of that excuse. We just spent a whole draft on defense and a high priced linebacker and still spotting a team 500+ . You saying we couldn’t have brough in another coordinator in and kept them below 500 yards?
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