Enough already! What's the deal with Sutton?

[Rexx]

I get this feeling Reid is just prolonging the announcement he is keeping Sutton. He wants the fans emotions to die down so he doesn't catch extreme pushback.

There is really no reason for this to drag out like this. This defense played with no fire and edge, that alone should be enough reason to move on. When watching a top ranked defense, the lack of emotion on KC becomes so obvious. I've been a fan for 35 years and am still shocked this guy hasn't been shown the door yet. Just make your BS announcement Reid, we all need to digest it sooner or later.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

No one can deny that this D has us in position to beat PIT, BUF and NYG.

[RunKC]

Chiefs defense gave up 27 or more points in 1/3 of their games. Good enough for the #1 seed guys!

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

It's all meaningless when they can't perform in the playoffs

I hold them to the same standards I hold Alex Smith. 11-5 is nice but what does it get us in January?

Only good performance by the defense in the playoffs was the Texans/Hoyer game

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Best22

It's all meaningless when they can't perform in the playoffs

I hold them to the same standards I hold Alex Smith.

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle. And 10 of them came on a fluke play and a bad call.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

[JakeF]

There isn't anything up with Sutton. Reid has never like firing his coaches and there's very little chance he fires Sutton.

Just like Andy isn't going to fire Andy Heck despite our offensive linemen almost never playing up to their potential. I wouldn't consider any of our offensive linemen polished. Schwartz is our best and he was trained elsewhere.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.

No, he's not. Reid isn't going to fire Sutton next year either.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

The Titans drove up and down the field in the first half. We got bailed out by drops and poor Tennessee route running. Second half was predictable assuming that Tennessee fix its miscues, which they did

The Steelers game was a joke . We were lucky to be close. Horrible play calling from Haley kept that game close. One punt?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle. And 10 of them came on a fluke play and a bad call.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

This unit actually allowed more yards than they did. Oh yeah, 2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Best22

The Titans drove up and down the field in the first half. We got bailed out by drops and poor Tennessee route running. Second half was predictable assuming that Tennessee fix its miscues, which they did

The Steelers game was a joke . We were lucky to be close. Horrible play calling from Haley kept that game close. One punt?

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

21-3 at half. Both sides did their part in the 1st half and completely shit the bed in the 2nd half. Complete team failure. 2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

Smith and Sutton both need to pack their bags.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

Both failed.

Why people need to make it black and white is beyond me.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Both failed.

Why people need to make it black and white is beyond me.

A defense holding a team under 20 is not failing.

Allowing 22 is worse, obviously, but not a disaster. A great many teams have gone on Super Bowl runs with their defense allowing 22 or even 23 or 24 points in a game!

*gasp* the horror!

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

We could break the internet like for change like Greg Robinson debacle and make his family so emotionally damaged they demand him to quit

We might very-well be there. Sometimes the fans have to stop a raping they see happening.

It's too bad that we're there, but I think we are. It's not like Hunt's smart enough to know he has to tell is employees that Sutton's gone...

[Hammock Parties]

Sutton =/ GROB

Sutton makes the most out of a defense lacking talent. This unit performed to it's capacity. It's tough to call plays with Frank Zombo-sized holes in the front seven.