Chiefs LNBS-Looking at the 2018 Salary Cap - Page 5

RunKC · 01-12-2018, 08:15 PM

Holy shit what a mess. Here are the top 25 paid players, basically everyone with a cap hit of $1 million plus:

Couple of things stand out here:

-Tamba is gone.
-No way in hell is DJ playing for $10.25 million.
-Dee Ford has no dead money unless his back is ****ed.
-No way should Allen Bailey play for an $8 million cap hit.
-Ron Parker’s value deal is over. $7 million cap hit is way too high for him.
-Revis will be decided in March. Doubt he’s back.
-Dirty Dan is $4.8 million to our cap. Holy shit.

There should be some cuts/restructures coming. I think we might see a lot of new faces on defense next year.

BryanBusby · 01-13-2018, 03:58 PM

The FA class is gonna be real shallow once teams realize dollars are probably best used to keep their jags (see Watkins will be tagged) and a bunch of squads will have practically unlimited funds to throw at the few decent ones.

I'd gamble on a prove it FA, overpay for one in the cream of the crop and just carry over the rest to 2019.

I'd bring booger back, overpay for Norwell, gamble with Aaron Lynch, sign the guys we want to keep and call it a FA.

Coogs · 01-13-2018, 04:29 PM

We need to try and put together some blockbuster type trade together with Cleveland and get the #4 pick and take Bradley Chubb from North Carolina State. I still think it would be a prefect year for this defense to get to a different scheme like a 4-3. Chubb, Jones, RNR, K-Pass across the front line. Ragland at the MLB. Use the cap money and other draft picks to fill in the other spots for this year. Maybe round it out in next years draft.

Smith, Peters, Houston and/or Ford for #4, their 2nd rounder from Philly, and get our 5th from them back.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-13-2018, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

We need to try and put together some blockbuster type trade together with Cleveland and get the #4 pick and take Bradley Chubb from North Carolina State. I still think it would be a prefect year for this defense to get to a different scheme like a 4-3. Chubb, Jones, RNR, K-Pass across the front line. Ragland at the MLB. Use the cap money and other draft picks to fill in the other spots for this year. Maybe round it out in next years draft.

Smith, Peters, Houston and/or Ford for #4, their 2nd rounder from Philly, and get our 5th from them back.

You lost me at Peters.

It'd be cool and all to get that pick, but a trade like that just isn't going to happen.

Coogs · 01-13-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

You lost me at Peters.

It'd be cool and all to get that pick, but a trade like that just isn't going to happen.

I just don't think Peters wants to be here, and I really look for him to start holding out real soon and asking for huge dollars like the DT from the Rams did last season in just his 3rd year in the NFL.

And it is going to have to take a player like Peters to get to #4.

It's JMO though.

I'd go for a new face for the defense. Build it around Jones, Chubbs and Ragland.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-13-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I just don't think Peters wants to be here, and I really look for him to start holding out real soon and asking for huge dollars like the DT from the Rams did last season in just his 3rd year in the NFL.

And it is going to have to take a player like Peters to get to #4.

It's JMO though.

I'd go for a new face for the defense. Build it around Jones, Chubbs and Ragland.

If your theory holds true, then yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea. I just don't know though. Every time I've ever thought we should trade Peters, he makes 2 or 3 plays that other guys just never make.

Coogs · 01-13-2018, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If your theory holds true, then yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea. I just don't know though. Every time I've ever thought we should trade Peters, he makes 2 or 3 plays that other guys just never make.

I get it. But you can use the rest of this draft, next years draft, and some free agents to try and fill the spot. Maybe the FA CB from the Rams?

Rebuild the defense over a couple of years to be a championship defense while Mahomes is getting up to speed.

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2018, 04:45 PM

I think a Houston trade would make sense. Trading Smith along with Houston should net quite a haul.

NJChiefsFan · 01-13-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I think a Houston trade would make sense. Trading Smith along with Houston should net quite a haul.

If we trade Houston then we are desperately trying to find a guy to replace.....Houston. If FA was offering players that the money could be spent on OK. I don't see the value in FA so I don't think we need to be clearing the cap space with a player we really need.

BryanBusby · 01-13-2018, 04:52 PM

Trading one of the few good players is an A+ way to rebuild the D, I tell you what

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-13-2018, 04:54 PM

I think Houston has some juice left. He will be two years removed from the injury. Sutton misused him so badly this year and he still was one of the better EDGE defenders in the league.

But that brings us back to problem #1.... Sutton.

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I think Houston has some juice left. He will be two years removed from the injury. Sutton misused him so badly this year and he still was one of the better EDGE defenders in the league.

But that brings us back to problem #1.... Sutton.

If Sutton stays what makes you think Houston will be anymore than what he is? An overpaid underutilized player.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-13-2018, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

If Sutton stays what makes you think Houston will be anymore than what he is? An overpaid underutilized player.

You just have to hope that the old bastard is either told by Andy or realizes himself that he was an idiot for the way he used him. I mean, he wasn't doing that shit from '13-'15 with him, so it's been done before.

Coogs · 01-14-2018, 07:35 AM

I was listening to Grunhard the other day on my morning drive to work. He said opposing OC's know what sets Houston is going to be allowed to rush and which sets he is going to drop into coverage, so they are scheming to get the personal on the field the keeps Houston in coverage most of the day. Makes sense.

01-14-2018, 08:13 AM

In the mix of acquiring players: I like what Veach did when he traded draft picks for current NFL players. Ragland and Erving were good trades. I've heard the 2018 draft is weak. If there are under-utilized players -- for whatever reasons-- currently on rosters, I'd like to see continued activity there. As to FA and draft, if nothing else, I hope a legit TE and RB are available. On defense, a crazy thought: Look for guys who actually enjoy contact. The unit is so soft, so uninspired.

Sandy Vagina · 01-14-2018, 08:56 AM

Checked yesterday, and the year to get out of Justin Houston's contract would be after 2018. Too much dead cap, if to consider this offseason.

Need to be adding talent on D.. not losing a top player, only to incur heavy cap damage.

01-12-2018, 08:15 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1400389	LNBS-Looking at the 2018 Salary Cap Holy shit what a mess. Here are the top 25 paid players, basically everyone with a cap hit of $1 million plus: Couple of things stand out here: -Tamba is gone. -No way in hell is DJ playing for $10.25 million. -Dee Ford has no dead money unless his back is ****ed. -No way should Allen Bailey play for an $8 million cap hit. -Ron Parker’s value deal is over. $7 million cap hit is way too high for him. -Revis will be decided in March. Doubt he’s back. -Dirty Dan is $4.8 million to our cap. Holy shit. There should be some cuts/restructures coming. I think we might see a lot of new faces on defense next year.
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01-13-2018, 03:58 PM	#61
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3169900 VARSITY	The FA class is gonna be real shallow once teams realize dollars are probably best used to keep their jags (see Watkins will be tagged) and a bunch of squads will have practically unlimited funds to throw at the few decent ones. I'd gamble on a prove it FA, overpay for one in the cream of the crop and just carry over the rest to 2019. I'd bring booger back, overpay for Norwell, gamble with Aaron Lynch, sign the guys we want to keep and call it a FA.
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01-13-2018, 04:29 PM	#62
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2025651	We need to try and put together some blockbuster type trade together with Cleveland and get the #4 pick and take Bradley Chubb from North Carolina State. I still think it would be a prefect year for this defense to get to a different scheme like a 4-3. Chubb, Jones, RNR, K-Pass across the front line. Ragland at the MLB. Use the cap money and other draft picks to fill in the other spots for this year. Maybe round it out in next years draft. Smith, Peters, Houston and/or Ford for #4, their 2nd rounder from Philly, and get our 5th from them back.
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	I think a Houston trade would make sense. Trading Smith along with Houston should net quite a haul. __________________
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3169900 VARSITY	Trading one of the few good players is an A+ way to rebuild the D, I tell you what
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01-13-2018, 04:54 PM	#70
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6639447	I think Houston has some juice left. He will be two years removed from the injury. Sutton misused him so badly this year and he still was one of the better EDGE defenders in the league. But that brings us back to problem #1.... Sutton.
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01-14-2018, 07:35 AM	#73
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2025651	I was listening to Grunhard the other day on my morning drive to work. He said opposing OC's know what sets Houston is going to be allowed to rush and which sets he is going to drop into coverage, so they are scheming to get the personal on the field the keeps Houston in coverage most of the day. Makes sense.
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01-14-2018, 08:13 AM	#74
Chiefs Moon Guest Casino cash: $	In the mix of acquiring players: I like what Veach did when he traded draft picks for current NFL players. Ragland and Erving were good trades. I've heard the 2018 draft is weak. If there are under-utilized players -- for whatever reasons-- currently on rosters, I'd like to see continued activity there. As to FA and draft, if nothing else, I hope a legit TE and RB are available. On defense, a crazy thought: Look for guys who actually enjoy contact. The unit is so soft, so uninspired.
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01-14-2018, 08:56 AM	#75
Sandy Vagina Still Got The Blues (For You) Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10014178	Checked yesterday, and the year to get out of Justin Houston's contract would be after 2018. Too much dead cap, if to consider this offseason. Need to be adding talent on D.. not losing a top player, only to incur heavy cap damage.
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