Chiefs John Dorsey agrees to become Browns GM - Page 16

RunKC · 12-07-2017, 08:10 PM

Adam schefter

Hoover · 12-08-2017, 05:32 PM

I think Dorsey will rock in Cleveland.

Shit, he can trade from Smith, pay him the 17 million left on that contract, and still draft a QB at the top of round one. And still have a ton of picks, and a damn talented roster.

I have little doubt he will be sucessful there.

Alex gets another year being the guy and then the Browns can have a full year to groom their rook.

cooper barrett · 12-08-2017, 06:02 PM

I'd rather see Peterson at the bottom of a cliff than Dorsey, that said:

Do you really think Dorsey is going to actually make a deal for Smith that isn't just a token gesture? I bet he makes the last offer before Alex11 get waived and gets him for pennies on the dollar. Chief's will proclaim it was the best deal ever...

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-08-2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Do you really think Dorsey is going to actually make a deal for Smith that isn't just a token gesture? I bet he makes the last offer before Alex11 get waived and gets him for pennies on the dollar. Chief's will proclaim it was the best deal ever...

The NFL is extremely QB needy.

There's no ****ing way Alex Smith is "waived".

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-08-2017, 06:19 PM

If Alex finishes this season strong... more like what we saw last week than the month prior... he will absolutely fetch a draft pick of decent to good value.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-08-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Did I hurt your feelings? Sorry.. I forgot you throw a hissy fit anytime someone asks you a question you don't like...

LOL

you completely moved the goalposts....and you were STILL ****ing wrong you dumbass

the other guy said Dorsey was the best GM..period...at drafting within some period of time...

then YOU moved the goal posts to "dorsey is the best GM in the last 30 years of the Chiefs"

but guess what...you were still wrong ...because you are an imbecile.....

Chiefshrink · 12-08-2017, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Good enough for Alex to game manage into a playoff spot where he'll ultimately shit his pants.

Browns fans will enjoy Alex's check down stuff against the Steelers/Ravens twice a year.

Deberg_1990 · 12-08-2017, 07:02 PM

Dorsey is too smart to take Smith.

Smith was Reids baby.

Messier · 12-08-2017, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Dorsey is too smart to take Smith.

Smith was Reids baby.

I know we all hate Smith, but he would instantly give the Browns stability, and probably make them respectable in one season. That said he'd be a one season solution. Is that worthy of a pick? I think so.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-08-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Dorsey is too smart to take Smith.

Smith was Reids baby.

Smith would automatically be a better QB than anyone they've had since the 80's.

KCUnited · 12-08-2017, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I know we all hate Smith, but he would instantly give the Browns stability, and probably make them respectable in one season. That said he'd be a one season solution. Is that worthy of a pick? I think so.

Sounds familiar.

dj56dt58 · 12-08-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Smith would automatically be a better QB than anyone they've had since the 80's.

Is there a reason you use the face palm smiley on literally every post you quote someone? Do you just have to come across as a giant douche every time you say something?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-08-2017, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Of course they played a role and a huge role at that.

The Chiefs couldn't win dick before Reid arrived and Dorsey failed to add any real top line talent in 2013 and 2014.

In 2014, the Chiefs lost starting defensive end Mike DeVito, Derrick Johnson and starter Jeff Allen in the first half of the first game. They lost Eric Berry to cancer and the team still finished with a winning records.

Hell, in 2015, they had to call up Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware from the practice squad because Dorsey failed to acquire adequate backups to Jamaal Charles.

Hue Jackson has had 1/50th the success of Andy Reid as a head coach in the NFL.

I'm not concerned about the success or failure of the Browns; that kind of thing has no place in my hemisphere anymore.
Mainly, it's just a curiosity to see what Dorsey and Veach can do, and I'm 1000% rooting for Veach.
I don't expect miracles from Veach, especially with the current state of picks available, the kiddie pool depth of the roster, and the laundry list of shit we need; the man has one tall ****ing mountain to climb right now while Dorsey is teeing off with a fistful of cash and a smoking Asian hooker under his desk, so to speak.

Nah, I think we're going to be okay and perhaps even MORE than okay if Mahomes becomes that QB that I'm all but convinced he can be. A great many idiots here have already claimed that I'm going to ride his ass mercilessly if he isn't perfect in year one, and they are dead...****ing...wrong. I've waited so long for this, there is no way in hell I'm going to go Full-reerun on the kid.
(Though I know some useless, Frisco dick-trash that absolutely will)

So the arrow is up, things look good, and I can say that I'm incredibly happy about where we're headed this offseason.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Nothing better than getting picks for Smith and him becoming a Brown.

I do not say this lightly or in jest when I tell you that should that scenario occur, GM Veach IMMEDIATELY becomes a gold jacket member of the select club that includes Deity Stram, Young Passionate Hunt Sr., and Early Hungry Steadman.

Yes, it is THAT goddamned impressive.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-08-2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Is there a reason you use the face palm smiley on literally every post you quote someone? Do you just have to come across as a giant douche every time you say something?

**** off, Dickface

Deberg_1990 · 12-08-2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Smith would automatically be a better QB than anyone they've had since the 80's.

Not disagreeing with that. I agree Smith holds value and someone would trade for him for sure.

Just not sure it would be Dorsey

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-08-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I'm not concerned about the success or failure of the Browns; that kind of thing has no place in my hemisphere anymore.

Here's the thing: Veach has been more impressive with his moves in June that Dorsey was for the entire year of 2016/2017.

Dorsey drafted one impact player in 2017 in Kareem Hunt, whose fallen off a cliff (for various reasons) since September.

Chris Jones was a nice 2nd round pick in 2016 but his play has dropped off considerably this year. We can chalk it up to his Arthroscopic Surgery just before Training Camp or this being his Sophomore Season. But either way, he's fallen off quite bit from where he ended 2016 and where he started 2017.

Before the 2016 season even started, KeiVarie Russell, a 3rd round CB, was cut. Parker Ehinger landed on IR after less than 5 games (and struggled in the ground game). DJ White has been cut. Eric Murray has been below average and while Tyreek Hill was awesome last year in multiple positions, he had seriously heavy baggage attached.

All that said, Veach signed Harrison Butker, who has been nothing short of awesome and traded a 2019 4th round pick (which equates to a 6th round 2019 pick) for Reggie Ragland, #2 linebacker coming out of high school and won a National Championship for Alabama in 2015. Ragland has been all over the field and his future is unlimited.

He also traded for Kevin Pierre-Louis, who's improving each week and has seen his snap count increasing each week.

The bottom line is that Veach has done more to affect the Chiefs 2017 season that Dorsey's done in two drafts.

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