What if Mahomes fails as an NFL QB?

[TLO]

I know this isn't something that's pleasant to think about, but I'm curious as to what this franchise would do if Mahomes turns out to be a bust.

Do you think we draft another QB in the first round? Or do we go full CHEFUS and sign a middle of the road Alex Smith type again?

Ideally Mahomes is the QB here for 15 years on his way to multiple SuperBowl titles and the Hall of Fame. That's the dream, anyway.

[Easy 6]

It simply isnt a possibility that I can envision for a number of reasons...

1) Start with the pure physical talent

2) Raised in pro ball home, he knows the effort it takes to be a pro baller

3) Sports have been his whole life all along, there are no passion for the game issues

4) He grew up with money, he wont go stupid or get lazy after banking several million

5) Reid clearly intends to groom him the right way, Pat is going to have a great teacher and be given the chance to grow into the position

6) He knows how to handle on the field adversity, Texas Tech was basically just him and a bunch of jags... he has plenty of experience fighting back against overwhelming odds

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

He was semi mobile with a big arm. He wasn't "clutch" in college. Never led many comebacks or game winning drives. He came from a similar system that created space for receivers to be wide open. The fact is that A&M's gimmick offense is well known and basically all the "experts" bring it up when talking about Mahomme's college completion percentage. It's easy to see if you watch the film. Almost Every play is a rub or pick. Also, Mahommes doesn't have an NFL completion percentage yet. Things aren't going to be the same as they were in college. Their backgrounds are very similar. Locker got the Fabre comparisons too. Again, Mahommes floor is Locker and his ceiling is Farve imo. Mahommes has potential and potential means he hasn't done anything yet. He can wow people with his arm but whether or not he can put a team on his back and carry them when they need it most is yet to be determined. That's why I wanted Watson. He did it in college and he's already done it in the pros. Mahommes has a lot to prove before I crown him. He is the epitome of a boom or bust prospect.

Case Keenum and Jared Goff came from the same college spread system. Other spread QB's like Marriotta, Cam, Big Ben, Dak and Watson have been successful. The NFL is turning into a spread college style offense league.

And Mahomes carried a sorry football team. They would have been blown out in every game if it wasn't for Pat.

Pat didn't have all world players surrounding him like Watson.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Mahomes will be fine. I'm not worried about him failing at all. Kids got it and he has a great teacher in Andy 'All I Do Is Make The Playoffs' Reid

[Scooter LaCanforno]

Did the Bronco fans ask this last year?

What if Lynch fails as an NFL QB?

I know this isn't something that's pleasant to think about, but I'm curious as to what this franchise would do if Lynch turns out to be a bust.

Do you think we draft another QB in the first round? Or do we go full Donkos and draft a late round project like Trevor Siemian again?

Ideally Lynch is the QB here for 15 years on his way to multiple SuperBowl titles and the Hall of Fame. That's the dream, anyway.

[TribalElder]

He might forget how to play after waiting for hell to freeze over

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

He was semi mobile with a big arm. He wasn't "clutch" in college. Never led many comebacks or game winning drives. He came from a similar system that created space for receivers to be wide open. The fact is that A&M's gimmick offense is well known and basically all the "experts" bring it up when talking about Mahomme's college completion percentage. It's easy to see if you watch the film. Almost Every play is a rub or pick. Also, Mahommes doesn't have an NFL completion percentage yet. Things aren't going to be the same as they were in college. Their backgrounds are very similar. Locker got the Fabre comparisons too. Again, Mahommes floor is Locker and his ceiling is Farve imo. Mahommes has potential and potential means he hasn't done anything yet. He can wow people with his arm but whether or not he can put a team on his back and carry them when they need it most is yet to be determined. That's why I wanted Watson. He did it in college and he's already done it in the pros. Mahommes has a lot to prove before I crown him. He is the epitome of a boom or bust prospect.

Locker is a terrible comparison. It's like comparing an apple to a green bean.

Locker played in a spread option (see Kansas State as a foundation to others) offense his first 2 years then went to a prostyle offense. Mahomes came from an Air Raid offense. Like Goff and Keenum that is nothing like Locker has ever seen.
Locker had accuracy issues where Mahomes is very accurate.
Locker had terrible pocket awareness and field vision and Mahomes is one of the best I've ever seen from a rookie, albeit preseason.
Locker is much more mobile, similar to Ironically, Alex Smith than Mahomes who is much more of a pocket QB with movement.
Locker was injury prone....Mahomes, knock on wood, isn't.
Both had a strong arm (Mahomes is stronger...elite of the elite stronger). Both have a quick release...i'm not sure who's better here but Mahomes is very fast.

I for one am glad the Chiefs didn't draft Watson. He smells like bust. I don't care about his godly numbers for 5 games before he got injured. What I saw against the Chiefs and another game he had was basically throwing hailmary 50/50 balls to the best WR in the NFL. He was awful for the first 3 1/2 quarters against the Chiefs and gained yards and scores against a prevent defense. He did it in college with a team full of NFL prospects against teams without NFL prospects for the most part. Mahomes did it with players that won't sniff the NFL.

[jimidollar]

I'm too old to even think about this question.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by RunKC

And Mahomes carried a sorry football team. They would have been blown out in every game if it wasn't for Pat.

Pat didn't have all world players surrounding him like Watson.

Bullshit. The #1 pick came from his team.

Look at Dak. That's a guy who carried a team. That's a guy who led comebacks at Alabama etc.

Did you watch the national championship? Did you see the beating Watson took in that game?

The offense Mahommes played in was not your average spread. You should watch the video at draft breakdown and study the offense. Bumps, rubs, and picks on every other play. There is clearly more bad than good. However, the good is REALLY GOOD and rare.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

Bullshit. The #1 pick came from his team.

Look at Dak. That's a guy who carried a team. That's a guy who led comebacks at Alabama etc.

Did you watch the national championship? Did you see the beating Watson took in that game?

The offense Mahommes played in was not your average spread. You should watch the video at draft breakdown and study the offense. Bumps, rubs, and picks on every other play. There is clearly more bad than good. However, the good is REALLY GOOD and rare.

I saw you said “A&M” in response to me and chalked it up to a simple mistake, but now it’s obvious it wasn’t.

You don’t even know what team the guy played for and you want us to take your evaluation seriously?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

Locker is a terrible comparison. It's like comparing an apple to a green bean.

Locker played in a spread option (see Kansas State as a foundation to others) offense his first 2 years then went to a prostyle offense. Mahomes came from an Air Raid offense. Like Goff and Keenum that is nothing like Locker has ever seen.
Locker had accuracy issues where Mahomes is very accurate.
Locker had terrible pocket awareness and field vision and Mahomes is one of the best I've ever seen from a rookie, albeit preseason.
Locker is much more mobile, similar to Ironically, Alex Smith than Mahomes who is much more of a pocket QB with movement.
Locker was injury prone....Mahomes, knock on wood, isn't.
Both had a strong arm (Mahomes is stronger...elite of the elite stronger). Both have a quick release...i'm not sure who's better here but Mahomes is very fast.

I for one am glad the Chiefs didn't draft Watson. He smells like bust. I don't care about his godly numbers for 5 games before he got injured. What I saw against the Chiefs and another game he had was basically throwing hailmary 50/50 balls to the best WR in the NFL. He was awful for the first 3 1/2 quarters against the Chiefs and gained yards and scores against a prevent defense. He did it in college with a team full of NFL prospects against teams without NFL prospects for the most part. Mahomes did it with players that won't sniff the NFL.

Nice evaluation. Thanks for sharing.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

Locker is a terrible comparison. It's like comparing an apple to a green bean.

Locker played in a spread option (see Kansas State as a foundation to others) offense his first 2 years then went to a prostyle offense. Mahomes came from an Air Raid offense. Like Goff and Keenum that is nothing like Locker has ever seen.
Locker had accuracy issues where Mahomes is very accurate.
Locker had terrible pocket awareness and field vision and Mahomes is one of the best I've ever seen from a rookie, albeit preseason.
Locker is much more mobile, similar to Ironically, Alex Smith than Mahomes who is much more of a pocket QB with movement.
Locker was injury prone....Mahomes, knock on wood, isn't.
Both had a strong arm (Mahomes is stronger...elite of the elite stronger). Both have a quick release...i'm not sure who's better here but Mahomes is very fast.

I for one am glad the Chiefs didn't draft Watson. He smells like bust. I don't care about his godly numbers for 5 games before he got injured. What I saw against the Chiefs and another game he had was basically throwing hailmary 50/50 balls to the best WR in the NFL. He was awful for the first 3 1/2 quarters against the Chiefs and gained yards and scores against a prevent defense. He did it in college with a team full of NFL prospects against teams without NFL prospects for the most part. Mahomes did it with players that won't sniff the NFL.

I think you're the ONLY one on the planet that thinks Watson "smells like a bust." Just wow...

[staylor26]

Yea, one thing I loved about Mahomes that not a lot of people mention is his lack of weapons.

There’s something about QB prospects without weapons that gives me a little more confidence in the guy.



Who did Rodgers have at Cal? Wilson? Roethlisberger? Rivers? Wentz? Goff? Luck?

Meanwhile, guys like Winston, Mariota, Manziel, Watson, Bortles, Bridgewater, etc. had stud NFL caliber weapons on offense.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

Bullshit. The #1 pick came from his team.

Look at Dak. That's a guy who carried a team. That's a guy who led comebacks at Alabama etc.

Did you watch the national championship? Did you see the beating Watson took in that game?

The offense Mahommes played in was not your average spread. You should watch the video at draft breakdown and study the offense. Bumps, rubs, and picks on every other play. There is clearly more bad than good. However, the good is REALLY GOOD and rare.

Mahomes played for T Tech, Not T A&M. The # 1 pick in the draft came from T A&M. Mahomes' Texas Tech team was not all that talented at all. If it wasn't for him, it would have been be a 3-4 win team. Tops.

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by TEX

I think you're the ONLY one on the planet that thinks Watson "smells like a bust." Just wow...

Guess you don't read that much do you.

[lewdog]

As a Chiefs fan I have to ask......

What's the definition of fail?