Mahomes should feel right at home after tonight.

[JDKinman]

The Chiefs looked like his old college team last year--

• No offensive line

• Play/momentum-killing penalties

• A tight end (Escobar) who couldn't catch a cold in an incubator

• No run game

• A defense that couldn't wrap up and tackle one-legged nuns playing for The Over-the-Sacred Hill Sisters of the Invalid.

The difference tonight versus his final season at Tech was that this evening, he showed discipline in doing what the coaches told him to do and not trying to freelance every play.

That TD pass he threw? Tech fans and alumni have seen that pass dozens of times. It's almost a Mahomes trademark--but it doesn't make the highlight reels because he makes it look too easy.

Stave just needs to go. He ain't it and never is going to be.

Conclusion: Mahomes got his first NFL game under his belt, stayed cool, made no major mistakes.

Mission accomplished.

JD

[Reerun_KC]

[Best22]

Why are people overlooking that Smith nearly threw an interception himself (pass to Harris)?

Mahomes threw a pass where only his teammate could get it. Mahomes was the highest rated passer on the day for a reason

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Oh for ****s sake.. did you just start watching football.. I've seen 50+ QB's the last 2 years make that same throw.. get out more and watch some other teams...

I said plenty of QBs make that throw. What I'm saying is that Watson CAN'T. He doesn't have the ball velocity.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

BINGO !!

But I would have given him a B minus just because he is so much more raw than Trub and Watson from under center and the play calling and penalties made it difficult to establish any kind of rhythm for him.

His pocket awareness needs to be a tad quicker though because there were two other times where he escaped that he made plays had he been going against a No.1 D that those would have been sacks and to someone else's point that TD pass is a pick against a No.1 D.

But overall I liked what I saw to someone's else's point about his "poise" that AR is rubbing off on him by not trying make more of a play than what it is.

Again this is not fair to say because he would have had first team blocking for him and that would have balanced out playing against first team.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Trubisky was pretty good, though he looked a lot more erratic and less confident than Mahomes. He made big plays and didn't screw up, though.

Contradicting statement here. Trubisky looked like an All Pro QB who made big plays and made good decisions. How did "Bisk" look more erratic and less confident than Mahomes making big plays and good decisions not screwing up ?

"Bisk" runs faster than Mahomes(Alex Smith speed) and is very raw as well but just as athletic and could be that Favre type of player in the future from what I saw maybe not from an arm perspective but still pretty impressive arm that is still evolving mind you. Both guys are raw in different ways.

Originally Posted by RealSNR

one to Gehrig.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by RealSNR

and one to Robinson (again, called back on a penalty).

If you are talking about his very first throw; that was under thrown and should have been a TD. That was not a dart !!


All the top flight rookie QBs so far have played respectable to very good in their first game with "Bisk" playing the best IMHO if you had to rate them. But comparing all of them against each other at this point can be a bit misleading and unfair as well based on many variables. Let's not let our "Collective CP Ego" get caught up in "massive insecurity" by doing the "my new car is shinier than yours" routine.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by notorious

This is a fair stance.

Dadgum right it is !!

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Contradicting statement here. Trubisky looked like an All Pro QB who made big plays and made good decisions. How did "Bisk" look more erratic and less confident than Mahomes making big plays and good decisions not screwing up ?

"Bisk" runs faster than Mahomes(Alex Smith speed) and is very raw as well but just as athletic and could be that Favre type of player in the future from what I saw maybe not from an arm perspective but still pretty impressive arm that is still evolving mind you. Both guys are raw in different ways.



Agreed.



If you are talking about his very first throw; that was under thrown and should have been a TD. That was not a dart !!


All the top flight rookie QBs so far have played respectable to very good in their first game with "Bisk" playing the best IMHO if you had to rate them. But comparing all of them against each other at this point can be a bit misleading and unfair as well based on many variables. Let's not let our "Collective CP Ego" get caught up in "massive insecurity" by doing the "my new car is shinier than yours" routine.

im watching the bears game on NFLN right now. Trubisky looks the part, and puts the ball where it needs to be. That being said he is out there with the 1s right now. And they are getting him some damn YAC and running the ball effectively. Im going to keep watching.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Again this is not fair to say because he would have had first team blocking for him and that would have balanced out playing against first team.

I am talking about Mahomes "recognition time" in the pocket to realize he is in trouble "sooner". The first team o-line will not be perfect and he will find himself in this same situation. 1st,2nd or 3rd team o-line has nothing to do with "pocket awareness" and knowing when to escape "sooner" is my point.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

im watching the bears game on NFLN right now. Trubisky looks the part, and puts the ball where it needs to be. That being said he is out there with the 1s right now. And they are getting him some damn YAC and running the ball effectively. Im going to keep watching.

Keep watching it only gets better. Wait till you see his quick out throw near the goal line on the run.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

I am talking about Mahomes "recognition time" in the pocket to realize he is in trouble "sooner". The first team o-line will not be perfect and he will find himself in this same situation as well is my point. 1st,2nd or 3rd team o-line has nothing to do with "pocket awareness" and knowing when to escape "sooner" is my point.

Fine, but he will figure out the speed of the game as he plays. His awareness seemed fine for the level of his competition he is going through his progressions imo. Something he is learning.

I'm sure he will be aware when there is a jailbreak to the quarterback to get out of Dodge. Sometimes defenses get to the best quarterbacks in the league.

[Chiefshrink]

"Bisk" will be the starter by mid-season IF not sooner IMHO. The Bears were criticized for moving up one spot to get "Bisk" which now on the surface looks "justified" but what was not "justified" was giving all that $$ to Glennon.

Bipolar(extreme) moves for sure.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

I am talking about Mahomes "recognition time" in the pocket to realize he is in trouble "sooner". The first team o-line will not be perfect and he will find himself in this same situation. 1st,2nd or 3rd team o-line has nothing to do with "pocket awareness" and knowing when to escape "sooner" is my point.

Im not trying to argue with you. I just dont want to make any generalizations about any of the other QBs without first watching. I saw the Texans game. Watson is what he is.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Fine, but he will figure out the speed of the game as he plays. His awareness seemed fine for the level of his competition he is going through his progressions imo. Something he is learning.

I'm sure he will be aware when there is a jailbreak to the quarterback to get out of Dodge. Sometimes defenses get to the best quarterbacks in the league.

This is what you meant to say originally. And you are correct.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

"Bisk" will be the starter by mid-season IF not sooner IMHO. The Bears were criticized for moving up one spot to get "Bisk" which now on the surface looks "justified" but what was not "justified" was giving all that $$ to Glennon.

Bipolar(extreme) moves for sure.

Ehh, I mean its the same thing that the Seahawks did with Flynn/Wilson. Every play I see in this bears game Trubisky looks more and more comfortable. He may earn the job by week one if he keeps this shit up.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

Im not trying to argue with you. I just dont want to make any generalizations about any of the other QBs without first watching. I saw the Texans game. Watson is what he is.

Oh, I know you are not. It was just flat out fun and pleasantly surprising watching "Bisk" look like an All Pro QB in the NFL that looked like he had been playing for 5yrs plus.