Mahomes should feel right at home after tonight.

[JDKinman]

The Chiefs looked like his old college team last year--

• No offensive line

• Play/momentum-killing penalties

• A tight end (Escobar) who couldn't catch a cold in an incubator

• No run game

• A defense that couldn't wrap up and tackle one-legged nuns playing for The Over-the-Sacred Hill Sisters of the Invalid.

The difference tonight versus his final season at Tech was that this evening, he showed discipline in doing what the coaches told him to do and not trying to freelance every play.

That TD pass he threw? Tech fans and alumni have seen that pass dozens of times. It's almost a Mahomes trademark--but it doesn't make the highlight reels because he makes it look too easy.

Stave just needs to go. He ain't it and never is going to be.

Conclusion: Mahomes got his first NFL game under his belt, stayed cool, made no major mistakes.

Mission accomplished.

JD

[tk13]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

People don't want to see Stave, but he is serving a purpose. He is allowing someone to take the snaps with the bubble o-line players. I doubt you guys want Mahomes doing that instead.

People keep bashing Stave, but there are no cutdowns anymore. They are probably going to ride Stave all the way to the end. If someone gets hurt, he might make the team.

[penbrook]

Marcus Rush was impressive tonight

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

They're all rookie QBs playing with the 2nd/3rd team offenses. That's about as even of a playing field as you're going to get when comparing them at this point. You're acting like Pat is the only one playing with those disadvantages while everyone else has perfection surrounding them.

Watson played with the 2nd team and a ton of guys who will make the 53. Overall I think Pat did well with the hand he was dealt.

Trubisky was the one everyone was impressed with in the media, but IMO Kizer looked the best this week.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

big difference between playing with 2nd team players that are going to make it onto the roster, and playing with 3rd team scrubs/camp bodies.

Mahomes had some time with the 2nd team when he came in during the 2nd quarter.

All of the other rookies also played a bit with the 2nd team but mostly the 3rd team units. Hell, Trubisky was the 3rd QB on the field for the Bears, he came in for the 2 minute drill before the half for the Bears. Kizer didn't play until the 3rd quarter, doubt he got any time with the 2nd team at all. Watson was the one who had the most time with the 2nd team unit.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Mahomes had some time with the 2nd team when he came in during the 2nd quarter.

All of the other rookies also played a bit with the 2nd team but mostly the 3rd team units. Hell, Trubisky was the 3rd QB on the field for the Bears, he came in for the 2 minute drill before the half for the Bears. Kizer didn't play until the 3rd quarter, doubt he got any time with the 2nd team at all. Watson was the one who had the most time with the 2nd team unit.

But watson and trubisky each got 25 attempts, Kizer got 18 attempts. And Mahomes first drive was killed by a hold and a false start. I dont want to sound like im making excuses but the kid did what he was asked and what he could with what was around him.

[cmdrzman]

Mahomes made a couple nice throws but he also had a couple bad ones to- That 1sr throw was actually not very good- in the area but it was under thrown, Robinson had his man beat by 5 feet- Mahomes gets that placed out in front and it's a TD- Instead of Robinson having to slow up to catch it and getting tackled- Smith had exact call on his 1st snap and made an NFL throw- put it in front of Hill allowing him to scoot for more yards

Mahomes sack could have been avoided too

Grade- C

[Messier]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

They're all rookie QBs playing with the 2nd/3rd team offenses. That's about as even of a playing field as you're going to get when comparing them at this point. You're acting like Pat is the only one playing with those disadvantages while everyone else has perfection surrounding them.

This was a penalty fest. Yes, they all played with backups, but I don't remember the other QBs having every big play called back with penalties. I thought he looked very good for his first game.

[BigCatDaddy]

Looked good and will improve by leaps and bounds. I say over and under is 8 games in before we have a QB controversy.

[CoMoChief]

Nelson shouldn't be the 2nd CB behind Peters. Guy needs to stick w/ playing the nickel.

[Red Dawg]

What does next year is all that matters. He can fugg up all over pre season for all I care. Give him all the reps with the ones from the start next year and watch him two and take off.

He's a playmaker.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Mahomes made a couple nice throws but he also had a couple bad ones to- That 1sr throw was actually not very good- in the area but it was under thrown, Robinson had his man beat by 5 feet- Mahomes gets that placed out in front and it's a TD- Instead of Robinson having to slow up to catch it and getting tackled- Smith had exact call on his 1st snap and made an NFL throw- put it in front of Hill allowing him to scoot for more yards

Mahomes sack could have been avoided too

Grade- C

Smith has been doing this for 10 years. Mahomes played his first game? How can you give him a C? Even if you're not grading him on a curve he didn't play badly.

Mahomes had two bigger plays called back. Not only did he lose yards. Half of his drives forced him into long yardage situations. A situation that Alex Smith has always struggled with. Didn't help that his supporting cast gave him no help. No protection, no running game, receivers with zero ball skills. Only part of his game that I hoped would be better was he threw a couple of throws on the run way off the mark. I'll chalk that up to first game jitters. But for a rookie whose reputation is to be a gunslinger, I think the fact that he didn't make dumb decisions yet had a few plays where he threw a tough ball makes this a very good night. For a first game, this is B+ to A-

[chiefzilla1501]

In a short time, you can see Andy Reid rubbing off on him. That looked like a later career version of McNabb last night. I actually think a lot of the prescripted screens will help mahomes early on by slowing his tempo down. Unlike Alex, you can get away with more of those short loss passes because mahomes can make up yards in big chunks whereas Alex usually needs all three downs. Reid never minded McNabbs improvising and mahomes showed decent pocket awareness, elusiveness, and ability to throw on the run. But despite the improv He looked yesterday like a guy willing to play within an offense. That's very McNabb like except mahomes will evolve into a smarter more accurate qb. A lot of that is Reid. But maybe we're seeing that when he feels like he doesn't have to score a td on every possession, he knows how to dial himself back.

[PAChiefsGuy]

I wasn't impressed by Mahomes at all but I know he is young and that was his first game.

He'll get better and I think eventually will turn into a very good QB but as of right now this kid is very raw. He needs time. As a Chiefs fan I am obviously rooting for him.

What I did like - his ability to extend plays. Seems like he has pretty good pocket awareness which is great to see. You can't teach that.

[Messier]

I'm hoping what everyone is remembering is that Mahomes was drafted with the understanding that QBs like Watson are farther along in their development. They're closer to what they will be as a finished product. Mahomes has the most raw ability of any of them. He still does. What he is in a couple of quarters of preseason football doesn't matter (even though he was good). He has the ability to be the best QB in this class three years from now.

[cmdrzman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Smith has been doing this for 10 years. Mahomes played his first game? How can you give him a C? Even if you're not grading him on a curve he didn't play badly.

Mahomes had two bigger plays called back. Not only did he lose yards. Half of his drives forced him into long yardage situations. A situation that Alex Smith has always struggled with. Didn't help that his supporting cast gave him no help. No protection, no running game, receivers with zero ball skills. Only part of his game that I hoped would be better was he threw a couple of throws on the run way off the mark. I'll chalk that up to first game jitters. But for a rookie whose reputation is to be a gunslinger, I think the fact that he didn't make dumb decisions yet had a few plays where he threw a tough ball makes this a very good night. For a first game, this is B+ to A-

C is an average score.. which is what is expected from a rookie QB.. Not bad, but not great.. missed on a couple bad throws and his 1st throw was to short... That probably gets picked in the regular season-

Threw some screens, nothing to get excited about- hit a couple nice ones across the middle- Took a bad sack, Didnt see him take a snap from center and setup to pass.. Probably a good thing.. I would have done the same as Reid.. let him take some snaps from center and hand the ball off.. makes sense.. Andy's doing the right thing...

But yeah- avg to good start- Coulda been worse, and I've seen worse from rookie QB's

He's got a long way to go but he seems to have the skills for a coach to fix-