Dorsey gone?

[George Liquor]

Per 610.

The ****?

[penbrook]

In other news Favre wants to be a coach or a gm

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Remarkable? Holy shit man

What more could he have done at this point?

[Chiefnj2]

The specific examples given in the article don't seem to rise to the level of firing a GM with a very good eye for talent. Hogan was a wasted pick, but it was a 5th rounder. And extending Fisher and LDT weren't horrible moves.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RunKC

he should have done his due dilligence and found out the source of the problem.

It appears that he was aware of the problem but didn't look into it any further until after Ballard was allowed to leave.

I agree, it's 100% Clark's fault. He's set it up to where the head of each department (Coaching, Team President and GM) report to him, not to each other or another buffer.

Had all three of those department heads reported to a COO, then as CEO, Clark would have likely made the decision some time ago.

IMO, either Clark needs to be more involved in the Day to Day operations (i.e., literally work at One Arrowhead Drive all year) or he needs to hire a COO to oversee the franchise and keep him informed.

[FloridaMan88]

Clark is also not getting good PR advising on how to handle this situation apparently.

The best thing to do would have been to have a press conference, address what happened, rather than allowing the drip drip rumors/speculation to leak out.

The story could have been essentially put to bed as the NFL enters its slowest time of year and then the focus in late July would be on the hiring of the new GM and the start of training camp.

Now the focus of the press conference to announce the new GM (assuming there is a press conference and Clark is present/taking questions at it) will still be on the decision to fire Dorsey.

Not good PR management.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

What more could he have done at this point?

See Post 1849

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Clark is also not getting good PR advising on how to handle this situation apparently.

The best thing to do would have been to have a press conference, address what happened, rather than allowing the drip drip rumors/speculation to leak out.

The story could have been essentially put to bed as the NFL enters its slowest time of year and then the focus in late July would be on the hiring of the new GM and the start of training camp.

Now the focus of the press conference to announce the new GM (assuming there is a press conference and Clark is present/taking questions at it) will still be on the decision to fire Dorsey.

Not good PR management.

You expect Clark to come out and say why he fired a GM?

Does opening yourself up to a lawsuit seem like it would bring positive PR?
Does justifying your decision to the masses by publicly airing dirty laundry between you and a former employee bring positive PR?
Can you imagine what prospective GMs would think if Hunt was unprofessional and discourteous enough to drag this fractured relationship into the court of public opinion?

Clark stating that it was a mutual parting-of-ways is the professional and smart thing to do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Hogan was a wasted pick, but it was a 5th rounder.

So were two Pro Bowlers in DJ Alexander and Ty Hill.

"But it was a 5th rounder" is a shitty excuse.

Those are valuable picks.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Clark stating that it was a mutual parting-of-ways is the professional and smart thing to do.

He never stated that it was a "mutual parting".

“I notified John that we would not be extending his contract beyond the 2017 season, and after consideration, we felt it was in his best interests and the best interests of the team to part ways now,” Hunt said.

That's a firing.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So were two Pro Bowlers in DJ Alexander and Ty Hill.

"But it was a 5th rounder" is a shitty excuse.

Those are valuable picks.

No they aren't.

They're lottery tickets that pan out about 10% of the time based on studies done. Not batting 1.000 on your 1/10 shots is most assuredly not an indictment on one's performance.

"It was a 5th rounder" is a wholly acceptable justification. The odds of succeeding with a 5th round pick are only slightly higher than any run of the mill UDFA. And as such, their marginal value is next to nothing.

[mcaj22]

so Ballard was the brains that kept all this working.

Indy got a good one

[Granslamwhich]

I am pretty sure all the picks are valuable. You just have to know what you need and what player has the capability of learning how to be an NFL player.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by RunKC

See Post 1849

Oh I see, this one decision which you have zero knowledge of what was actually going on behind closed doors means Clark hasn't done well.

Got it.

I think Clark has earned the benefit of the doubt up to this point.


BTW who was the GM that traded 2 2nd round picks for Alex Smith?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No they aren't.

They're lottery tickets that pan out about 10% of the time based on studies done. Not batting 1.000 on your 1/10 shots is most assuredly not an indictment on one's performance.

"It was a 5th rounder" is a wholly acceptable justification. The odds of succeeding with a 5th round pick are only slightly higher than any run of the mill UDFA. And as such, their marginal value is next to nothing.

Agree to disagree.

There are scores of 5th rounders across the league, including two Pro Bowlers currently on the Chiefs roster.

It's fine if fans want to refer to them as "just" 5th rounders but I doubt you find a guy in the league that feels that way.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

so Ballard was the brains that kept all this working.

Indy got a good one

That wasn't the conclusion that I had drawn from the article.