Dorsey gone?

[George Liquor]

Per 610.

The ****?

[MahiMike]

This still sucks.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by prhom

If Dorsey mishandled the Berry situation and Clark/Reid had to get involved to get the deal done, then how can Dorsey be blamed for a shitty deal? What leverage would he have if Berry knows the owner is advocating to make a deal. Maybe Dorsey didn't want to make that deal because it was not good for the team, but was told to do it no matter what.

The shitty deal was EITHER of those two getting involved in the first ****ing place.
These operations were supposed to be independent of each other, that's how Clark set the mother****er up to BEGIN WITH after the Peeholi disaster.

I agree; don't hire a man for a job and then tie his ****ing hands.

[Rasputin]

Any success in the next five years will be direct contributed by John Dorsey especially if it's direct success do to a trade to the Bills giving us the right to pick #10 in the draft for Patrick Mhahomes II

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No; I think you are actually pretty fair, albeit prone to a bit of optimism . Overall, though, there are a lot of people throwing a shitload of dirt on Dorsey when I would bet if I put up an approval poll 48 hours ago 80-90% of the posters would have thought he was an excellent GM.

It would be hard not to approve of what he did here.

I've never really been sold on Dorsey's ability to not get bent over and take it up the ass in trades and contract negotiations, but he's been pretty good at building a deep roster and he will always be the GM that said **** Blackledge and made his move to get a potential franchise QB.

I'm more inclined to believe that Clark fired Dorsey because he traded all that future away for a QB and not a striker.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It would be hard not to approve of what he did here.

I've never really been sold on Dorsey's ability to not get bent over and take it up the ass in trades and contract negotiations, but he's been pretty good at building a deep roster and he will always be the GM that said **** Blackledge and made his move to get a potential franchise QB.

I'm more inclined to believe that Clark fired Dorsey because he traded all that future away for a QB and not a striker.

What you just described is someone who could be a Director of Pro Personnel or Director of College Scouting, but not a GM.

[Red Dawg]

His deals sucked and took to long to get. Bowe was a waste. Maclin was a waste and don't get me started on the Smith deal. So were a few others like Hali. With that being said he did a great job at finding players that can contribute with little money.

The more this gets discussed I think Terez had it nailed. The GB link, too much money and Clark thought he bail for GB soon.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What you just described is someone who could be a Director of Pro Personnel or Director of College Scouting, but not a GM.

That's pretty much what I've always thought of him as. I'll be the first one to correct these stupid ****ers around here that talk about Dorsey like he was the GM in GB before the Chiefs hired him.

Having said that, his move for a QB makes him more of a GM than any GM of the Chiefs since I've been alive, in my book at least.

[007]

Originally Posted by notorious

If Dorsey wasn't horrible at the cap we would still have Maclin and Poe.


Just Sayin'.

Maclin NEVER lived up to his contract.

[BlackOp]

Politics are gross...and Berry is being a bitch. (if this is true) They paid him during his rehab. He wanted rockstar money...and until last season..hadn't lived quite up to his billing. Chiefs took care of him...period.

Dorsey's job was to look after/protect his TEAM...not just a marketable cancer survivor. How is he supposed to know if the cancer will reemerge? Give him a shitload of guaranteed money only to have him vanish again? He looks like a fool in that situation..thats the type of shit that gets you fired (ironically).

This cant be true..can it? Berry still pouting and missing practice after the contract they just gave him?

Dorsey took a 2-14 team and flipped it into a 12-4 record with serious injuries to their star players. Props...his depth made that happen. Reid too but there was SB caliber chemistry there.

This was a terrible scenario...Hunt's going to regret it.

[Urc Burry]

Not sure if this has been posted. Take it for what it's worth

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...dorsey_firing/

[kccrow]

Dorsey was anything but a bad GM. All this horseshit getting spewed around here is ****ing ridiculous. Dorsey is a damned good GM. My conjecture has nothing to do with his abilities to actually do his job. If it ever comes to light that Clark though he was doing a bad job, then Clark should probably sell the team and find a new side job.

This likely came down to money or loyalty going forward (as in potentially leaving for GB), and I doubt anything else.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Not sure if this has been posted. Take it for what it's worth

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...dorsey_firing/

Look at who posted it bfett81

That was a Clay Moniker at one time.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Not sure if this has been posted. Take it for what it's worth

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...dorsey_firing/

It came from here, and [I admit, it's a Cankleover] reposted it around the rest of the innertubes.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Dorsey was anything but a bad GM. All this horseshit getting spewed around here is ****ing ridiculous. Dorsey is a damned good GM. My conjecture has nothing to do with his abilities to actually do his job. If it ever comes to light that Clark though he was doing a bad job, then Clark should probably sell the team and find a new side job.

This likely came down to money or loyalty going forward (as in potentially leaving for GB), and I doubt anything else.

I still don't buy that Dorsey was going jump ship on his own accord especially after making the deal of the century for the Chiefs. He was ecstatic over drafting Mahomes II and was clearly looking at building this team his way so all he has done was to build a legacy in winning championships for Kansas City Chiefs only that legacy now is only going be on the success of developing his young quarterback prospect. His wife and family are embedded in Kansas City.

This just doesn't make since to me other than John Dorsey and Clark Hunt didn't see eye to eye and Clark wanted it his way. They must have disputed more than once and you just don't cross the boss.

[BlackOp]

I did find it odd that Justin Houston said he "didn't contact KC" about if he would be at practice. They are paying him like $20 million a year...poor fellow cant find the time to use the phone. He seemed pretty curt in his response about it too (which I found strange at the time..chalked it up to ego)...Berry and he are buds.

If these two conspired to get him fired..then **** them. They both got stellar contracts well beyond what they have delivered.

I'd go so far as to say Dorsey could have used their money to make the team better...ungrateful brats.