Chiefs Dorsey gone? - Page 88

George Liquor · 06-22-2017, 02:12 PM

Per 610.

The ****?

prhom · 06-23-2017, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea but that's revisionist history at its finest because he was not a top 5 prospect

I agree. If anything that supports the reason for your original question of who else should he have picked. If the only other first round pick that has done better was at the end of the round and wasn't projected anywhere near the top 10, you know that year was a terrible draft class. Just awful, really.

thegame214 · 06-23-2017, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Okay. You've been warned...

Not groundbreaking news, but the reports that people loved Ballard weren't made to prop him up. Apparently there was not one person in KC who didn't love that guy. Clark, Donovan and Andy loved him.

He was responsible for a lot of the great moves we made as well, including Marcus peters. He's the real deal and he's with the goddamn Colts.

I hate that he's in Indy and I hate that Clark did not make this move at the end of the season to promote Ballard if what was told to me was true.

There was never any doubt about Peters abilities, but more so a character issue that Dorsey and Reid even flew out to speak with him personally. How does Ballard get the trophy of being responsible for Peters to KC?

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-23-2017, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Fake News-

Since 2010 the last 7 drafts, Oakland's only had five 1st rd picks and six 2nd rd picks

The Chiefs have had seven 1st rd picks and seven 2nd rd picks

Since 2010 the Raiders had 2 picks in the top 5

And the Chiefs did as well

Chiefs have had more 1st rd and 2nd rd picks than Oakland since 2010

Wut?, Wut? Whatcha got?

Shut the **** up, Dummy

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-23-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

They never have a good answer for that

Reerun is so ****ing stupid when it comes to football that he would have passed on Peyton Manning

Reerun_KC · 06-23-2017, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Clarks burned this offseason at both ends.

Jesus Christ.

Only thing that would make this a historical off-season of fail is if Herman somehow came back into the fold.

True fans would explode with orgasmic excitement.

The cliches of herms eye for drafting talent would be off the charts.

**Rain Man** · 06-23-2017, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Just got a text back. Here is what is going through the grapevine from people in the know.

Very interesting. This kind of makes Berry and Maclin sound like drama queens. Those types of dramas seem relatively minor to warrant firing a guy who's been the best talent acquisition guy in the league for the past several years.

Reerun_KC · 06-23-2017, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Reerun is so ****ing stupid when it comes to football that he would have passed on Peyton Manning

That's a hell of a compliment coming from you,. Thanks for your support.

**Ming the Merciless** · 06-23-2017, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214

There was never any doubt about Peters abilities, but more so a character issue that Dorsey and Reid even flew out to speak with him personally. How does Ballard get the trophy of being responsible for Peters to KC?

I don't know many specifics but there were tons of analysts and talking heads who swore we shouldnt/wouldnt take a safety that high...so If he held course and was the one insisting on going against the tradition and theory that that is too high for a S, then credit should be given...

prhom · 06-23-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Okay. You've been warned...

Not groundbreaking news, but the reports that people loved Ballard weren't made to prop him up. Apparently there was not one person in KC who didn't love that guy. Clark, Donovan and Andy loved him.

He was responsible for a lot of the great moves we made as well, including Marcus peters. He's the real deal and he's with the goddamn Colts.

I hate that he's in Indy and I hate that Clark did not make this move at the end of the season to promote Ballard if what was told to me was true.

This is where the other intel about Maclin and Dorsey wanting more money being the final straw for Clark doesn't make sense. Ballard DID seem to have a lot of cheerleaders out there. Surely Clark had some inkling of what Dorsey might want for salary going forward, and the Dorsey to GB rumor came out before Ballard went to Indy, right? When it looked like Ballard was going to interview with Indy Clark should have made the move then because most the complaints he is rumored to have had about Dorsey had already happened.

I'm blaming Clark here. He may have had a succession plan in place with Ballard, but he didn't bring the Dorsey thing to a head in time to actually use it. He waited until the succession plan had collapsed and then decided that he couldn't live a moment longer with Dorsey. Talk about a mis-managed situation.

threebag · 06-23-2017, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Yesterday it was because Dorsey drafted the worst QB in the history of the NFL, as evidenced by Mahomes' minicamp. In fact, Reid was so pissed about it he had Mahomes do footwork drills in front of the media so everybody could see how awful Mahomes was so it would make Dorsey look bad.

I am not making this up.

Where there's smoke... Hopefully Mahomes comes along

**Ming the Merciless** · 06-23-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

Where there's smoke...

shut the **** up turd

where theres smoke theres friction burns from a hairy ugly tranny with the herp just dry-ass pounding you like a demo hammer

threebag · 06-23-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Just so you know Clay is stealing your shit and putting it on Twitter

Dudes a low rent hack

thegame214 · 06-23-2017, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I don't know many specifics but there were tons of analysts and talking heads who swore we shouldnt/wouldnt take a safety that high...so If he held course and was the one insisting on going against the tradition and theory that that is too high for a S, then credit should be given...

Are you thinking of Berry? I never saw Peters labeled as a safety. Also many corners were taken before him so why would that be too high?

**Ming the Merciless** · 06-23-2017, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214

Are you thinking of Berry?

yes i was thinking of the berry pick

my bad

I know that pick was 'unusual' because S usually doesnt get drafted that high...i have no idea who was the one who actually scouted or made the case for that pick though..

same with peters I don't know enough about the situation to be concerned about Ballard leaving (or not concerned)

I guess for a layman without specific knowledge the idea of change (dorsey and ballard leaving) at a time when things are going OK and we seem to be prepping for a good future is a little strange and discomforting though...just generally

thegame214 · 06-23-2017, 03:47 PM

I could be wrong, but didn't Andy have a partial say upon hiring Dorsey? I know it was publicized as all Clark, but no way we land Reid without his input. Andy probably thought John could give him the right pieces, should we trust Reid ( I mean "Clark") on finding his replacement?

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thegame214 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2017 Casino cash: $9780412	I could be wrong, but didn't Andy have a partial say upon hiring Dorsey? I know it was publicized as all Clark, but no way we land Reid without his input. Andy probably thought John could give him the right pieces, should we trust Reid ( I mean "Clark") on finding his replacement?
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