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Old 06-22-2017, 02:12 PM  
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Dorsey gone?
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:22 AM   #1141
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Its about the money Dane, if not directly towards Dorseys contract it was about how he spent Hunts money on the roster.

It's always about the money dude.
I don't buy it.

So, in this scenario, Dorsey, a year before his contract expires, says "I want X amount of money when my deal expires", then Clark Hunt says, a year in advance, "**** you, I'm not paying a GM X amount, so you're fired and I'll pay you to sit home".

That doesn't fly.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:23 AM   #1142
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I don't buy it.

So, in this scenario, Dorsey, a year before his contract expires, says "I want X amount of money when my deal expires", then Clark Hunt says, a year in advance, "**** you, I'm not paying a GM X amount, so you're fired and I'll pay you to sit home".

That doesn't fly.
Maybe Dorsey wanted to wait a year to do a deal and Clark didn't want to wait that year and end up with no GM because Dorsey left for GB?
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:24 AM   #1143
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This is bullshit and there's no way around it
Agreed.

There's simply no valid reason. None. Even if you think he wasn't a cap pro, it doesn't matter. We were always under the cap and have a talented roster regardless.

The objective is to stockpile talent then Dorsey did his damn job.

If he was released because they couldn't come to terms on a contract that Clark is too cheap to win a championship. You want the best? You pay the best.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:25 AM   #1144
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If it's about performance, Hunt's a ****ing reerun.
We know this. Reid and Dorsey have covered his ineptness. As least was calm enough to hire Dorsey and Reid. I think it comes down to that we were always over the cap. ChUNT didn't like the way his money was being spent. Or it was about raping secretaries.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:25 AM   #1145
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Maybe Dorsey wanted to wait a year to do a deal and Clark didn't want to wait that year and end up with no GM because Dorsey left for GB?
That still seems like a stretch because, just like with head coaches, all of the best candidates were hired in January and February.

Realistically, Hunt would have a better chance of hiring an excellent candidate in January 2018 as opposed to June 2017.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:26 AM   #1146
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Well if it wasnt about Dorseys money it was about the cap money. Money is money. Im sure Clark was not thrilled with all the dead money on the table. The Mahomes trade made him extremely nervous and then the Maclin cut brought it all to a head. Like someone else said Im sure he was just waiting to wrap up Andy before he canned Dorsey. It cant be just a coincidence that both things happened on the same exact day.

If it wasn't about the money, or the Fox News theory, then what was it?
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:27 AM   #1147
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The real question here is did Hunt fire Dorsey over voicemail?
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Guys, the "Hunt is cheap" narrative is false.

He just extended Reid for four years (or five, as some have stated) for a huge amount of dough.

He paid Pioli $20 million to "Go away".

I'm not buying it.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:28 AM   #1149
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It's amazing how people kiss Clark's ass. This is his fault 100%.

You don't like Dorsey? Fire him after the season and hire Ballard. The fact that we lost BOTH Ballard and Dorsey is not good. It's bad management.
You are aware Clark is the one responsible for hiring Dorsey and Reid too right?

I know you guys are all upset and have your panties in a wad but Clark made the right call originally and you were all washing his balls over it so who exactly are you to say he is making the wrong decision here just because you don't like it?
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:28 AM   #1150
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If it wasn't about the money, or the Fox News theory, then what was it?
The most plausible theory seems to be that Reid forced him out. He made Clark choose.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:29 AM   #1151
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If it wasn't about the money, or the Fox News theory, then what was it?
The only logical conclusion is the escape clause.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:29 AM   #1152
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The most plausible theory seems to be that Reid forced him out. He made Clark choose.
No ****ing way
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:30 AM   #1153
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Agreed.

There's simply no valid reason. None. Even if you think he wasn't a cap pro, it doesn't matter. We were always under the cap and have a talented roster regardless.

The objective is to stockpile talent then Dorsey did his damn job.

If he was released because they couldn't come to terms on a contract that Clark is too cheap to win a championship. You want the best? You pay the best.
And everyone cited Pioli's cap management without acknowleding a pretty widely accepted phenomenon in sports - "The Disease of More". I believe it was Riley that came up with it and it's as true now as it's ever been.

When the team sucks, the national spotlight isn't on you, you don't get the credit, you don't get the glory and you simply don't have the market (or the ego) that will compel you to chase every dime. It's basic human nature. But when teams are winning, everybody on that squad is positive they're a big part of it and when the time comes to cash in, those demands are always higher.

Every single good team ever has had to deal with it. The cost of their players increases disproportionately with their actual success. And if you don't have someone like Brady just donating money to Bob Kraft so that he can paid after he retires, it's just the nature of the beast in a hard cap league.

Scott Pioli was a brilliant cap manager because his teams...sucked. And if Hunt prefers his 'stars and scrubs' model over paying the depth players like Dorsey prefers, then Clark is still a ****ing reerun because it is demonstrably true that Dorsey's method is more successful with the exception of the 'get a HoF quarterback at all costs' rule. And Dorsey just MADE that gambit in a baller ass move to get Mahomes.

And he got ****ing fired.

Jesus **** this is stupid. Just catastrophically reeruned.
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