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Old 06-22-2017, 02:12 PM  
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Dorsey gone?

Per 610.

The ****?
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:09 AM   #1126
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Everything I've ever heard Dorsey talk about where he wanted to GM was Kansas City because it was his dream gig.

He schools his kids here his wife is happy in Kansas City

His DNA is on this team.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:09 AM   #1127
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There's some chatter that hunt had to step in on the berry negotiations to get them done. Dunno how true though
So we're blaming Dorsey for a deal that Hunt had to make? That's 'Dorsey's cap problem'?
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:10 AM   #1128
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Clark was probably upset with all the backlash of how Jamaal was let go (will be in ring of honor), Maclin needing to be let go because of terrible cap situation (Reid clearly upset), and asking to be paid top GM NFL money. No doubt he's an incredible evaluator, and will be surely missed, but thank you John for Mahomes!
We only needed 900k in cap room to sign our draft picks, Maclin didn't get cut for that. We could have changed someone's base salary into a bonus and freed up a million easy.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:11 AM   #1129
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Outwardly we see Dorsey's apparent strengths and weaknesses. But, this smacks of something more. Maybe there were personnel problems in the organization (e.g. sexual harassment) and maybe Dorsey did a poor job in handling the situation, on top of other management lapses. Typically, companies part ways with managers regarding HR lapses and everyone is quiet about it. I don't know this to be true, but it can be an explanation behind a dismissal that otherwise makes no sense. Think Fox News.
Well there you have it, folks.

We've reached the point that moves this organization makes appear so outwardly confounding that the only rational explanation is raping secretaries.

Because....Chiefs.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:14 AM   #1130
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So we're blaming Dorsey for a deal that Hunt had to make? That's 'Dorsey's cap problem'?
I have no clue. If so seems it was gonna happen either way. Personal differences maybe?

I dunno. Optically this looks bad
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:14 AM   #1131
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No matter what anyone tells you - ever - when they say it's not about the money, it's always about the money.

John Dorsey wasn't going to turn down a potential long-term extension worth tens of millions of dollars because he wanted a CHANCE at returning to Green Bay. If [X] dollars has Dorsey saying "no, I want an out of the GB job opens up" then say "You may have [X]+[Y] to forego that chance at a job you may very well not even get...."

And sooner or later, when [Y] gets big enough, the deal gets done. Unless this was a bitch-fit, it was a money thing. And neither of them are acceptable.

John Dorsey should still be this franchise's GM.
But we see it all the time in sports. Regardless of the position, guys have built in clauses for their "Dream Job".

I'd be surprised if this was about money, especially since Reid and Dorsey share the same agent.

It's more plausible that Clark demanded loyalty to the Chiefs, Dorsey refused and Clark said "Get the **** out".
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:14 AM   #1132
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I'm with DJ

This is bullshit and there's no way around it
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:15 AM   #1133
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Well there you have it, folks.

We've reached the point that moves this organization makes appear so outwardly confounding that the only rational explanation is raping secretaries.

Because....Chiefs.
As plausible as any other theory being floated in this insane asylum.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:18 AM   #1134
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Its about the money Dane, if not directly towards Dorseys contract it was about how he spent Hunts money on the roster.

It's always about the money dude.
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As plausible as any other theory being floated in this insane asylum.
Nope.

No matter how many bad contracts were given or draft picks wasted and/or lost, the Chiefs have made the playoffs three out of four years and have built a Top 4 NFL roster.

His "mistakes" are not, in any way, a "fireable" offense.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:19 AM   #1136
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But we see it all the time in sports. Regardless of the position, guys have built in clauses for their "Dream Job".

I'd be surprised if this was about money, especially since Reid and Dorsey share the same agent.

It's more plausible that Clark demanded loyalty to the Chiefs, Dorsey refused and Clark said "Get the **** out".
And money cures it. There's absolutely an amount that could have been paid to fix that. There's no way, absolutely none, that you can't give him an amount sufficient to make him walk away from a mere CHANCE at the job. Because all that out clause is - a chance. He's not going to dig his heels in and risk losing his job over a chance at getting a job that already has at least 2 very qualified internal candidates in the running.

Clark Hunt is a silver spoon product of inheritance money borne of cornering markets. Money isn't an issue for him.

Like I said - he'd better be ****ing right because this is foolhardy at best. You don't disrupt the course when your team has more momentum than it's had in at least 20 years and arguably longer.

If it was Reid, **** him. If it was Clark, **** him too. I don't care who it was at this point but they'd better goddamn win because this is horseshit. This is walking right out to the edge of the limb and turning around with the saw. I don't think it'll work out for them how they think it will.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:20 AM   #1137
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This is bullshit and there's no way around it
Yeah, I'm still in this camp. I don't like this move at all.
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Well there you have it, folks.

We've reached the point that moves this organization makes appear so outwardly confounding that the only rational explanation is raping secretaries.

Because....Chiefs.
Might as well be. We've seen just about every other scenario with this organization.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:21 AM   #1139
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Hunt is still paying Dorsey for this upcoming season. It's definently not about the money
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Hunt is still paying Dorsey for this upcoming season. It's definently not about the money
If it's about performance, Hunt's a ****ing reerun.
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