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Old 06-02-2017, 05:36 PM  
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:10 PM   #1036
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You are ignoring facts clay. Hill had 6 TD's through the air and just under 600 yards on only 83 targets.

You cherry pick deep throws without counting screens/intermediate passes that Andy will still run this year.
I didn't cherry pick anything.

The question was whether Alex Smith limits receivers.

Judging by the fact that Tyreek Hill only had 7 receptions that traveled longer than 10 air yards last year, the answer is yes, not to mention that almost half of his receptions came behind the line of scrimmage last year.

We will not see Reek reach his full potential until Mahomes is the QB.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:13 PM   #1037
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I didn't cherry pick anything.

The question was whether Alex Smith limits receivers.

Judging by the fact that Tyreek Hill only had 7 receptions that traveled longer than 10 air yards last year, the answer is yes.

We will not see Reek reach his full potential until Mahomes is the QB.
I think a small percentage of the problem will be Hill's Route tree knowledge. I believe he was limited in that regards past season. Alex is playing for a Job this season.. not just for KC, future suitors.. lets see if he can muster up more than 15 Tds
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:13 PM   #1038
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Because we'd like to win some games while we wait for Mahomes to resemble anything close to being able to be a starting NFL QB?

Why o why do we have to keep answering the same questions though.
I don't mean start Mahomes. I get it, just complaining because Hill is roasting DBs and Smith can't pull the trigger enough.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:17 PM   #1039
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Yeah I mean I stopped worrying about Smith when we got Mahomes. The future is bright and I'll watch KC win games with checkdowns all day as long as I know that at some point I get to see the big guns.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:25 PM   #1040
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You are ignoring facts clay. Hill had 6 TD's through the air and just under 600 yards on only 83 targets.

You cherry pick deep throws without counting screens/intermediate passes that Andy will still run this year.
You mean on only 61 catches, he was targeted 83 times but only caught 63 of those. A lot of that is on alex for being inaccurate downfield though.

So if he gets 40 more targets he should be close to 900 yards and 90 catches but he doesn't have another downfield threat to protect him so he will get the respect that Macklin used to get.

It is going to be hard for him to have a 1300 yard season without a 2nd option at WR to take some of the heat off him, will also be hard if alex won't throw it deep and allow him to use his speed to run by guys downfield. Teams can put a LB and Safety on fake gronk and then still double Hill until someone else proves they are worth covering.

The real question is what will the base formation be? 12? 13? Reid had 3 and sometimes even 4 TE's out there at times last year, I bet that continues until they can find a QB who is willing and accurate enough to throw downfield.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:27 PM   #1041
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I didn't cherry pick anything.

The question was whether Alex Smith limits receivers.

Judging by the fact that Tyreek Hill only had 7 receptions that traveled longer than 10 air yards last year, the answer is yes, not to mention that almost half of his receptions came behind the line of scrimmage last year.

We will not see Reek reach his full potential until Mahomes is the QB.
And?

He's still going to push for 1,000 yards and 8 TD's this season unless he gets hurt.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:28 PM   #1042
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You mean on only 61 catches, he was targeted 83 times but only caught 63 of those. A lot of that is on alex for being inaccurate downfield though.

So if he gets 40 more targets he should be close to 900 yards and 90 catches but he doesn't have another downfield threat to protect him so he will get the respect that Macklin used to get.

It is going to be hard for him to have a 1300 yard season without a 2nd option at WR to take some of the heat off him, will also be hard if alex won't throw it deep and allow him to use his speed to run by guys downfield. Teams can put a LB and Safety on fake gronk and then still double Hill until someone else proves they are worth covering.

The real question is what will the base formation be? 12? 13? Reid had 3 and sometimes even 4 TE's out there at times last year, I bet that continues until they can find a QB who is willing and accurate enough to throw downfield.
Fake Gronk? He tore up your #1 defense pretty ****ing good.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:33 PM   #1043
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"Somebody who's trying to take care of his family."

Okay, so we should enjoy what we have of Demarcus Robinson right now, because he's going to make somebody pay out the ass for him when he's done with his rookie deal. And that's whether he's good or shitty. Doesn't matter.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:34 PM   #1044
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Hard to imagine DAT sticking. Robinson is lauded for his run after catch ability, and Chesson has some return experience as well. I expect one of those two to take over duties.
I have a feeling the Donks would pick-up DAT if KC releases him...their return game was putrid.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:50 PM   #1045
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Dude is killing elite CB's with separation.

Good Lord, just lob it up to him on a fly and he'll beat the defense to it nine times out of ten.
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I have a feeling the Donks would pick-up DAT if KC releases him...their return game was putrid.
They drafted 2 guys to take on the 3rd and 4th WR spots as well as help with returns.

DAT isn't a true anything, just like mccluster before him. He has a chance to stick one more year unless kc signs a vet WR.
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Good Lord, just lob it up to him on a fly and he'll beat the defense to it nine times out of ten.
You need a QB who can at least place the ball downfield to give him a chance to run under it.

That is why they moved up to draft a guy in the top 10
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And?

He's still going to push for 1,000 yards and 8 TD's this season unless he gets hurt.
We will see.
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