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Old 06-02-2017, 05:36 PM  
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:53 AM   #841
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You also didn't want Mahomes and didn't think he was a 1st round QB but you flipped pretty ****ing quickly once he was drafted.
That is a fact. He also wanted Geno Smith with the first overall pick and hated the Hill pick saying that he wouldn't even make it out of training camp. The guy has no idea about football talent. But he sure is quick to insert his opinion. And even though his ratio of wrong to right is about 90 to 10, he still keeps doing it.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:55 AM   #842
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Other than the fringe element of the fanbase, I don't think anyone is suggesting that "Dorsey is terrible", however there is reason to question his personnel decision making when it comes to the WR position.

Remember the historically awful Chiefs WR depth chart in 2014? The group without a TD reception for the entire season?

Dorsey, in his own words admitted after that season that he made a mistake the previous offseason by not being more aggressive in addressing the WR position.

Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself.

As far as the WRs go, I really hope that Reid and Dorsey looked at what Maclin, Hill, Conley, Robinson and Chesson looked like in OTAs, on top of what they showed last year, and felt pretty confident that the group could be good without Maclin going forward.

Obviously there was a need to clear cap space but they had to see something in OTAs, even if it is without pads and all, to release Maclin.

And when you take a decision like this, it is not just about this coming year, you take this decision with a vision for the next few years. And then you realize Maclin will be declining, if he is not already, when your young QB Mahomes will be taking charge and Maclin will still have that huge salary.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:56 AM   #843
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I didn't hate the hill pick. But he had a shit preseason and I rightfully called him out for it. I was obviously wrong to want him cut but he still has a ways to go. Hopefully he catches more than seven or eight balls over 10 yards this year.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:57 AM   #844
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Dorsey is a great GM but after five years we're no closer to a Super Bowl and are entering the rebuilding phase once again with a young QB.

We're doing now what we should have done at the start of his tenure.

But at least they put some asses in the seats.
Now you're just being stupid. We are not entering a rebuilding phase. The young quarterback is going to take over a team that is talented and deep. And the way this coaching staff develops players over the course of a couple seasons it is going to be a loaded team by the time Mahomes takes over.

I don't understand why you insist on being a gimmick when you clearly have more to offer.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:58 AM   #845
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I didn't hate the hill pick. But he had a shit preseason and I rightfully called him out for it. I was obviously wrong to want him cut but he still has a ways to go. Hopefully he catches more than seven or eight balls over 10 yards this year.
Lol who really expect much in preseason out of a 5th round rookie WR?
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:01 AM   #846
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Lol who really expect much in preseason out of a 5th round rookie WR?
Most of this place was gaga over him after training camp. And he was basically a no-show in preseason other than one or two plays. He legitimately looked awful.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:02 AM   #847
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Now you're just being stupid. We are not entering a rebuilding phase. The young quarterback is going to take over a team that is talented and deep. And the way this coaching staff develops players over the course of a couple seasons it is going to be a loaded team by the time Mahomes takes over.

I don't understand why you insist on being a gimmick when you clearly have more to offer.
Yeah, Dorsey and less so Reid, have brought to this team a winning mentality. Now, most fans expect this team to be a perennial winner, except for the occasional bad season here and there. This is great!
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:02 AM   #848
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You've got some numbers wrong.

Bailey- - $6M
Alex - $17M
Hali - $7M
Reid - $3.2M
Harris - $2M
DJ - $8M
You have to count dead money. So Allen Bailey wouldn't be a $6 million gain. It would be 4 due to paying Bailey $2 million.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:03 AM   #849
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Most of this place was gaga over him after training camp. And he was basically a no-show in preseason other than one or two plays. He legitimately looked awful.
How long have you been a Chiefs fan? We get gaga over the littlest things. I really had high hopes for Chris Manno.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:04 AM   #850
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How long have you been a Chiefs fan? We get gaga over the littlest things. I really had high hopes for Chris Manno.

Longer than you, kid.
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You have to count dead money. So Allen Bailey wouldn't be a $6 million gain. It would be 4 due to paying Bailey $2 million.
Go cut them using their calculator. It increases the cap space by $6 million for Allen Bailey.

It's already factoring in the dead money. He has an $8M cap hit. $2 million would be dead money and $6 million would be cap savings.
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Obviously there was a need to clear cap space but they had to see something in OTAs, even if it is without pads and all, to release Maclin.
That would be very risky and dumb to make a decision like this based on how the other WR's are performing in voluntary OTA's, with zero hitting or contact.

Also whatever the WR's have been doing in the voluntary OTA's thus far has been done without going against the likes of Marcus Peters and Eric Berry in the Chiefs secondary.
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You have to count dead money. So Allen Bailey wouldn't be a $6 million gain. It would be 4 due to paying Bailey $2 million.
You're looking at this year. I believe the discussion was for 2018, where it would indeed be over $6M in savings.
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Most of this place was gaga over him after training camp. And he was basically a no-show in preseason other than one or two plays. He legitimately looked awful.
I don't know what you saw. Most of us saw the potential in him. You was absolutely sure that he wouldn't catch a pass over 20 yards the entire season, and placed a bet on it. I very rarely take bets. But that one was a no brainer. I had no doubt whatsoever that I was winning that, so I took it. And guess what? I won. Even though you added the stipulation that the ball had to travel through the air 20 yards, I still won the bet. Face it Clay, you have a football IQ low enough to be considered mentally reeruned.
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My prediction is that Robinson breaks out and moves up the depth chart, I think Chesson plays specials this year to replace him.

I think Hill still gets used everywhere and Reid/Nagy scheme up plays for him like last year.

I am not at all worried about the departure of Maclin, quite pleased we had the guts to do it. Guy earned a lot of money last year being broke dick and playing like ass, while the team still won 12 games.
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