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Old 06-02-2017, 05:36 PM  
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:14 AM   #541
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WR1 - Hill
WR2 - Conley
WR3 - Robinson

That's likely not that bad. All need reps before playing with Mahomes. Tons of athleticism there. Hill is your guy to take the top off, and the other two can too but they are likely to be reliable, big targets underneath.
It's better than 2014's crew of Bowe - Wilson - Avery; but that's assuming Hill adds another ~200 receiving yards. Which I'm guessing might be tough to do only getting naked bubble screens.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:15 AM   #542
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The team needed its $5 million for the emergency fund, too. If and when some guys get hurt this year, we needed cap room for that event and we didn't have it whatsoever before yesterday.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:17 AM   #543
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This is absolutely silly.
No, it's not.

He drafts athletes, not football players.

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The Chiefs have extended their best players after Year 3 in Kelce, Fisher and recently LDT.
Fisher is not one of our best players. He's OK. Not great - not terrible.

The rest are LOW ROUND PICKS we hit on.

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They'll extend Ford and Peter, too.

They've also extended Ware, West and Harris.

Get used to it.
You're mixing contracts yet to be extended or released and players who were signed nears ago.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:23 AM   #544
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Seattle, Pitt and Atlanta have had great success using the run game to propel the passing offense. Matt Ryan put up career numbers when they paired Freeman with Coleman. Even better than when he had TG, Douglas, Julio, and Roddy White. Both Atlanta and New England saw 20% of their pass production come from running backs last year. KC is headed that way also with the Hunt pick.
One of these things is not like the others.
Can you guess why?
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:43 AM   #545
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No it isn't. The Chiefs cut a good WR and replaced him with no one, therefore they got worse.

I get the move. Gives the young guys a chance to get experience and prove their worth before they play with Mahomes one day. Gives us the necessary cap flexibility that is needed before the season. But the 2017 Chiefs absolutely got worse yesterday, as the WR depth and experience took a big hit.
Or it could have got better if Maclin is anything like last year he won't be missed.

If he is healthy all season and on top of his game then you maybe right.

This isn't our year but still want to be competitive and get confidence swagger built in the younger guys.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:44 AM   #546
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For those suggesting that Hill can't be a full time WR, or that he can't be a #1 WR, I will bring back a post of mine from a few weeks ago.
Being a team's #1 receiver is about more than speed. IMO, for him to be considered a true #1 he needs to be able to line up at WR and play the position against all coverages and to be able to execute routes all over the field, it's not just being a deep threat or a home run threat on a screen play. It's as much about route running as anything. It's about his ability to recognize coverages and create space even when the corner has help. It's about being able to make catches in traffic over the middle. It's about being able to break contact and not going down at first contact.

He's a fine player, but his game needs to become a lot more complete before we consider him in a class where you talk about Julio Jones or Antonio Brown or ODB.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:49 AM   #547
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I will be very interested to see which WR teams will put their #1 cover guy on. Maclin was at the very least an expensive decoy.
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No, it's not.

He drafts athletes, not football players.
The Chiefs franchise was a tire fire laughing stock for nearly 20 years before the arrival of Dorsey and Reid.

All they've done since is draft well, constantly churn the bottom of the roster and with an exception in 2014, moved the franchise forward.

11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 12-4, with 2016 as AFC Divisional Champs.

This year, they made the bold move (which I thought was absolutely imperative) to move up and draft a QBOTF.

How anyone can criticize Dorsey for providing players on a team that's won 43 regular season games during that time (and losing only 21) is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Good ****ing grief.
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Being a team's #1 receiver is about more than speed. IMO, for him to be considered a true #1 he needs to be able to line up at WR and play the position against all coverages and to be able to execute routes all over the field, it's not just being a deep threat or a home run threat on a screen play. It's as much about route running as anything. It's about his ability to recognize coverages and create space even when the corner has help. It's about being able to make catches in traffic over the middle. It's about being able to break contact and not going down at first contact.

He's a fine player, but his game needs to become a lot more complete before we consider him in a class where you talk about Julio Jones or Antonio Brown or ODB.
I agree with all of this, however, it is his speed and quickness that already sets up his routes. Not even Talib or Harris dared to press Tyreek.

I'm an optimist, but I really believe in his ability to be more like Antonio Brown than Percy Harvin. The coaches obviously think he can be the man too, as I highly doubt they are counting on Conley or anyone else to play the Z position that Maclin is vacating.
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So I take it Fatlock hasn't realized that the Chiefs never had much of a chance at a SB this year?
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The Chiefs franchise was a tire fire laughing stock for nearly 20 years before the arrival of Dorsey and Reid.

All they've done since is draft well, constantly churn the bottom of the roster and with an exception in 2014, moved the franchise forward.

11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 12-4, with 2016 as AFC Divisional Champs.

This year, they made the bold move (which I thought was absolutely imperative) to move up and draft a QBOTF.

How anyone can criticize Dorsey for providing players on a team that's won 43 regular season games during that time (and losing only 21) is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Good ****ing grief.
You do realize the only reason we're 43-21 is because of our QB play. If we still has Matt Cassel we'd be 21-43
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You do realize the only reason we're 43-21 is because of our QB play. If we still has Matt Cassel we'd be 21-43
Smith is a top 10 QB!!
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The Chiefs franchise was a tire fire laughing stock for nearly 20 years before the arrival of Dorsey and Reid.
Montana being knocked out of the 93 playoffs was not luck - that was football being played back when players were allowed to play football.

The 95 team would have been the first version of the RAVENS had our kicker not completely shit his pants.

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All they've done since is draft well, constantly churn the bottom of the roster and with an exception in 2014, moved the franchise forward.
No, that's pretty much exactly it.

Other than Peters we've taken a giant shit on the 1st round of the draft and made up for it in the late rounds.

BECAUSE THE LATE ROUNDS ARE WHERE YOU TAKE RISKS AND FIND RARE TALENTS...
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I don't see where Whitlock is going with this.


Can someone explain to me, please?
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