Chiefs From a Red Raider alum: Things you may not know about Patrick Mahomes II - Page 16

JDKinman · 04-30-2017, 09:29 AM

The majority of what has been written and publicly discussed about Patrick Mahomes II has focused on his arm and his ability to make plays. As is usual, the national sports media rarely sees beyond their keyboard.

I have a vested interest in this because I consider Kansas City my second home and my adopted hometown. The three years we spent in KC were the best of our career and the good folks of Kansas City took my wife and I in and made us feel more welcome and at home than any other place we have lived. For that, we'll always be grateful and we truly love the city as if we were born and raised there.

Now to Mahomes II.

Those of us who are Texas Tech alumni and supporters see quite a bit more. In no particular importance, I want to share my observations and experiences with Mahomes from the past three years.

1. No off the field issues and probably never will be. Patrick is not just an outstanding athlete, but he is an outstanding young man. In Raiderland, we never had to hold our breath wondering what foolishness he was going to get into. He has a solid moral compass, solid values and his focus--both professionally and socially--is on being a role model fit for both young kids and old grandmothers alike. He will be excellent for the Kansas City community in the way that Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith were active, and he has the boyish personality and "boy next door" persona of Joe Montana.

This is huge for me given as how I'm a retired ad agency and brand guy, the leader of a team has to wear that not just on their sleeve, but in their heart as well. Mahomes will make Kansas Citians proud everywhere he goes.

2. He's smart. Book smart, athletic smart and career smart. This too has been overlooked by the media. During his time at Texas Tech, Mahomes was an Academic All-American. He didn't cut or skip class and have coaches cover for him. (Kliff) Kingsbury doesn't tolerate that. We've lost some good players due to their academic hijinks and/or failures.

Concern over Mahomes' ability to learn an NFL playbook? Zero. Concerns over Mahomes' ability to manage his money rather than letting it manage him and becoming a distraction to the team and city? Zero. Concerns over his hitting an intellectual ceiling so far as being a professional quarterback goes? Zero.

3. He has an uncanny ability to not just read the defense, but to read what is happening on the defense as the play develops--and exploit it. Much of what I've read by sportswriters criticizing Mahomes for a "lack of pocket discipline" has been amusing. Watching six minutes of game film highlights and then penning a story for the press does not give one anywhere near the correct perspective of what Mahomes saw and accomplished on the field.

Tech fans have seen this for three years. Mahomes will see what the defense is doing, audible or adjust the play and then make adjustments on the run. Yes, some of this will need to change in the NFL and he will need to learn when a play cannot be salvaged or saved, but see Point #2 regarding his intelligence. The bigger picture here is that the young man has not only the vision to see what a defense is adjusting or preparing for, but also has the ability to react and counter-attack during the play. In high-scoring Big 12 games, this is critical.

4. Mahomes has the best "full field vision" of any quarterback we've ever had at Tech. Period. If what they say about reincarnation is true, Patrick Mahomes was a bird-of-prey in a previous life. His eyesight and vision is other-worldly when it comes to seeing the entire field. In three years and thousands of yards of passing, we may never have any idea how many touchdowns and first downs were made because he saw the entire field and every single eligible receiver.

Broadcasters are always good at pointing out during a replay the receivers that were open that the quarterback missed. You can go back and review all three years of Mahomes playing at Tech and you won't have more than a handful of those remarks by the broadcasters. The kid has incredible field vision and--

5. He analyzes and decides like a super computer. Maybe faster. This was another thing that kept the Raider faithful enthralled on game days. Mahomes knew who his primary and secondary receivers were, but his ability to read and analyze a defense and then adjust, sometimes even on the fly as the play was unfolding, and then process what was happening and then shift who was NOW the primary and secondary receiver was mind-boggling. Even the Tech receiving corps would shake their heads at how fast he could go from one side of the field as they were covered, to finding them as soon as the defense mistakenly thought they had the play covered, and then find his next set of primary receivers and make the play to them with laser-like accuracy.

He is a zone defense's worst nightmare. Man-on-man coverage is up to the receivers, but defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to lose a lot of sleep trying to out guess and out-react Mahomes.

6. He is a freakshow of an athlete.This has been touched on, but Mahomes' athleticism goes far beyond his right arm. He's a husky, big kid who is a gym rat and fitness fanatic. He has eye to hand coordination that can fake you out on the football field or dazzle you on the baseball diamond.

7. He's humble. I doubt you'll see entourages or "crews" hanging with every move. Mahomes is self-confident and assured. He's not a Manziel that needed hero-worshippers falling all over him every step of the way. Mahomes gives credit to his coaches and receivers and teammates before he talks about anything he might have done in the game. Too much of that gets edited out by the sports writers and broadcasters, but this young man is the consummate team player and a natural leader.

In conclusion, I wanted to share these thoughts, views and experiences from the past three years of thoroughly enjoying Mahomes in a Texas Tech jersey. That he is trading Texas Tech red for Kansas City red. . . Christmas came in April and is now running non-stop for as long as this outstanding young man calls Arrowhead Stadium home.

Best regards,

--JD

Pasta Little Brioni · 05-04-2017, 06:03 AM

Being able to make plays when things aren't perfect...that's what separates him from the rest. With a clean pocket, he can make all the throws...and when things go wrong he can bail you out.

ChiefRocka · 05-04-2017, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JDKinman

However, I DO think he needs to get some "on the field" playing time in games where he can be afforded the opportunity to do so--
--JD

How about any game we're down 14+ heading into the 4th?

JDKinman · 05-04-2017, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Being able to make plays when things aren't perfect...that's what separates him from the rest. With a clean pocket, he can make all the throws...and when things go wrong he can bail you out.

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

How about any game we're down 14+ heading into the 4th?

Absolutely put him in.

--JD

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-04-2017, 05:22 PM

I love our new Tech Mahomes fans.

What an incredible upgrade over the clogged septic system we received on our LAST go around at QB acquisition.

Titty Meat · 05-04-2017, 06:46 PM

I think I'll get season tickets in 2018 if he's gonna be the starter

Chiefshrink · 05-04-2017, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JDKinman

Don't think he's ready to start. Not even if he has an All-Pro performance training camp. He needs to break some bad habits, chief among them (no pun intended) is his mistaken thinking that he's also a fullback. Second, he needs to learn when to sacrifice the play and let it die a natural, non-traumatic peaceful death. This will be harder for him to learn because it is never taught at Texas Tech.
--JD

My thoughts exactly especially what is in bold. But you really can't blame the kid at that time knowing he has an awful defense and he is the only offensive weapon they had.

KChiefs1 · 05-04-2017, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

I think I'll get season tickets in 2018 if he's gonna be the starter

Need to get them this year to beat the rush.

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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-04-2017, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Need to get them this year to beat the rush.

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No doubt. People are going to be excited about Chiefs football again. Quite a few folks let their option go when Captain Checkpants arrived from San Francisco.

Pablo · 05-04-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

That's awesome that he's a good guy and humble. Christian Ponder was humble too. He's still gonna bust.

28-3.

**Dave Lane** · 05-04-2017, 07:32 PM

ChiefRocka · 05-04-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

**Dave Lane** · 05-04-2017, 07:40 PM

JDKinman · 05-04-2017, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I love our new Tech Mahomes fans.

What an incredible upgrade over the clogged septic system we received on our LAST go around at QB acquisition.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

No doubt. People are going to be excited about Chiefs football again. Quite a few folks let their option go when Captain Checkpants arrived from San Francisco.

It is good to be excited about KC football again--and with not just the "hope" of greatness, but now with the expectations of greatness. This is a kid you can build an offense around. Mark my words: If he performs at KC the way he did at Tech, you will have receivers WANTING to exercise their free agency and come to KC for a shot at a ring.

Dang but I can't wait for training camp and the season!

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

My thoughts exactly especially what is in bold. But you really can't blame the kid at that time knowing he has an awful defense and he is the only offensive weapon they had.

This is where Mahomes will have to become "professionally mature" and learn that "going for broke" with his body is fine if it is for the AFC championship or the Super Bowl. But it's not okay going for a first down against the likes of the Jets.

--JD

**alpha_omega** · 05-04-2017, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor

I think I've probably seen this GIF a thousand times. Every single time I see it I get pissed off at Alex Smith......

This x the largest imaginable number.

Frazod · 05-04-2017, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I love our new Tech Mahomes fans.

What an incredible upgrade over the clogged septic system we received on our LAST go around at QB acquisition.

Amen, brother.

04-30-2017, 09:29 AM
JDKinman Starter Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: In an airplane hangar Casino cash: $10000400	From a Red Raider alum: Things you may not know about Patrick Mahomes II The majority of what has been written and publicly discussed about Patrick Mahomes II has focused on his arm and his ability to make plays. As is usual, the national sports media rarely sees beyond their keyboard. I have a vested interest in this because I consider Kansas City my second home and my adopted hometown. The three years we spent in KC were the best of our career and the good folks of Kansas City took my wife and I in and made us feel more welcome and at home than any other place we have lived. For that, we'll always be grateful and we truly love the city as if we were born and raised there. Now to Mahomes II. Those of us who are Texas Tech alumni and supporters see quite a bit more. In no particular importance, I want to share my observations and experiences with Mahomes from the past three years. 1. No off the field issues and probably never will be. Patrick is not just an outstanding athlete, but he is an outstanding young man. In Raiderland, we never had to hold our breath wondering what foolishness he was going to get into. He has a solid moral compass, solid values and his focus--both professionally and socially--is on being a role model fit for both young kids and old grandmothers alike. He will be excellent for the Kansas City community in the way that Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith were active, and he has the boyish personality and "boy next door" persona of Joe Montana. This is huge for me given as how I'm a retired ad agency and brand guy, the leader of a team has to wear that not just on their sleeve, but in their heart as well. Mahomes will make Kansas Citians proud everywhere he goes. 2. He's smart. Book smart, athletic smart and career smart. This too has been overlooked by the media. During his time at Texas Tech, Mahomes was an Academic All-American. He didn't cut or skip class and have coaches cover for him. (Kliff) Kingsbury doesn't tolerate that. We've lost some good players due to their academic hijinks and/or failures. Concern over Mahomes' ability to learn an NFL playbook? Zero. Concerns over Mahomes' ability to manage his money rather than letting it manage him and becoming a distraction to the team and city? Zero. Concerns over his hitting an intellectual ceiling so far as being a professional quarterback goes? Zero. 3. He has an uncanny ability to not just read the defense, but to read what is happening on the defense as the play develops--and exploit it. Much of what I've read by sportswriters criticizing Mahomes for a "lack of pocket discipline" has been amusing. Watching six minutes of game film highlights and then penning a story for the press does not give one anywhere near the correct perspective of what Mahomes saw and accomplished on the field. Tech fans have seen this for three years. Mahomes will see what the defense is doing, audible or adjust the play and then make adjustments on the run. Yes, some of this will need to change in the NFL and he will need to learn when a play cannot be salvaged or saved, but see Point #2 regarding his intelligence. The bigger picture here is that the young man has not only the vision to see what a defense is adjusting or preparing for, but also has the ability to react and counter-attack during the play. In high-scoring Big 12 games, this is critical. 4. Mahomes has the best "full field vision" of any quarterback we've ever had at Tech. Period. If what they say about reincarnation is true, Patrick Mahomes was a bird-of-prey in a previous life. His eyesight and vision is other-worldly when it comes to seeing the entire field. In three years and thousands of yards of passing, we may never have any idea how many touchdowns and first downs were made because he saw the entire field and every single eligible receiver. Broadcasters are always good at pointing out during a replay the receivers that were open that the quarterback missed. You can go back and review all three years of Mahomes playing at Tech and you won't have more than a handful of those remarks by the broadcasters. The kid has incredible field vision and-- 5. He analyzes and decides like a super computer. Maybe faster. This was another thing that kept the Raider faithful enthralled on game days. Mahomes knew who his primary and secondary receivers were, but his ability to read and analyze a defense and then adjust, sometimes even on the fly as the play was unfolding, and then process what was happening and then shift who was NOW the primary and secondary receiver was mind-boggling. Even the Tech receiving corps would shake their heads at how fast he could go from one side of the field as they were covered, to finding them as soon as the defense mistakenly thought they had the play covered, and then find his next set of primary receivers and make the play to them with laser-like accuracy. He is a zone defense's worst nightmare. Man-on-man coverage is up to the receivers, but defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to lose a lot of sleep trying to out guess and out-react Mahomes. 6. He is a freakshow of an athlete.This has been touched on, but Mahomes' athleticism goes far beyond his right arm. He's a husky, big kid who is a gym rat and fitness fanatic. He has eye to hand coordination that can fake you out on the football field or dazzle you on the baseball diamond. 7. He's humble. I doubt you'll see entourages or "crews" hanging with every move. Mahomes is self-confident and assured. He's not a Manziel that needed hero-worshippers falling all over him every step of the way. Mahomes gives credit to his coaches and receivers and teammates before he talks about anything he might have done in the game. Too much of that gets edited out by the sports writers and broadcasters, but this young man is the consummate team player and a natural leader. In conclusion, I wanted to share these thoughts, views and experiences from the past three years of thoroughly enjoying Mahomes in a Texas Tech jersey. That he is trading Texas Tech red for Kansas City red. . . Christmas came in April and is now running non-stop for as long as this outstanding young man calls Arrowhead Stadium home. Best regards, --JD
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