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View Poll Results: Do you approve or disapprove of The Trade? Why?
I approve of the trade and am thrilled about Patrick Mahomes. 284 81.61%
I approve of the trade, even through I would’ve preferred Deshaun Watson over Patrick Mahomes. 29 8.33%
I approve of the trade, even through I would’ve preferred Deshone Kizer over Patrick Mahomes. 0 0%
I approve of the trade, even through I would’ve preferred a QB other than Watson/Kizer over Patrick Mahomes. 1 0.29%
I approve of the trade, even through I would’ve preferred a non-QB over Patrick Mahomes. 1 0.29%
I disapprove of the trade because it was too much to pay even though I like Mahomes. 6 1.72%
I disapprove of the trade because I don’t think Mahomes is that good. 1 0.29%
I disapprove of the trade because I think we could get more value out of the three picks we gave up. 3 0.86%
I disapprove of the trade because we have greater needs than quarterback. 2 0.57%
I disapprove of the trade because I think Mahomes would have been available at 27. 4 1.15%
I have no idea what to think. 4 1.15%
I’m not going to vote because in the future I will change my opinion to make myself look smart. 2 0.57%
I'm still fixated that we drafted Blackledge over Marino. 11 3.16%
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:06 PM  
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What do you think? This is a public poll, because we're going to come back in five years and revisit this day.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:50 PM   #76
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I'm happy but guarded. Don't want to see Blackledge 2.0 and also not thrilled about giving up next years number one. Hoping this guy pays big dividends. He has to.
You're scared of something that happened over 30 years ago????
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:50 PM   #77
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I missed the party, but this has to be one of the most lopsided Rain Man polls ever.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:51 PM   #79
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no, I'm scared of seeing it happen again.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:52 PM   #81
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Giving up two extra high picks for a guy who isn't even going to play in 2017 is a bit much for my tastes. Better QB prospects have been taken for a lot less.

I'm glad to see you back on CP, though. Let the rage flow, friend.
Sitting is the best for Mahomes. Anyone that's watched him play agrees.

Reid and Smith are the perfect mentors for a guy whose family has LIVED professional sports, meaning he'll be coachable.

I can't believe you're the same guy stumping for Tyler Bray in the first, yet have hesitation about Mahomes.

Oh, wait...
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:53 PM   #82
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:53 PM   #83
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I missed the party, but this has to be one of the most lopsided Rain Man polls ever.
I bet Rain Man never thought he'd see the day when he could poll CP about a 1st round QB.
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I see a lot of people on here celebrating but I don't see analysts calling this a fantastic pick. Dorsey is a great GM but he's busted on picks too. A lot of the excitement in here is coming from simply the fact that we drafted a QB in the first round but when you look at this and last year's QBs he is probably the third best of the group at best. Now, what he could be in two years remains to be seen. He's 21 and raw, this stupidity that he should start soon is foolish
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Value of the 10th pick - 1300

Value of the 27th pick - 680
value of the 3rd pick - 136
Value of 1st next year - unknown

Current Difference is negative 484
Lowest value of any 1st round pick - 590

so as of right now, we are 106 pts in the hole with no possibility of getting to even since you can't pick lower than 32.

To put that in perspective, if we pick in the middle of the 1st round next year, it's the 15th(1050 value) we would be in the negative 566 in trade value.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:54 PM   #86
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Giving up two extra high picks for a guy who isn't even going to play in 2017 is a bit much for my tastes. Better QB prospects have been taken for a lot less.

I'm glad to see you back on CP, though. Let the rage flow, friend.
You have said yourself:

No price is too high if you think the guy is a franchise QB..

They got the guy they wanted. You can tell by their reaction. No price was too high.

Your opinion of the prospect means nothing. Absolutely nothing..
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We just got a QB everyone wanted and you have commented more about Tiger than the QB we just picked.

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Value of the 10th pick - 1300

Value of the 27th pick - 680
value of the 3rd pick - 136
Value of 1st next year - unknown

Current Difference is negative 484
Lowest value of any 1st round pick - 590

so as of right now, we are 106 pts in the hole with no possibility of getting to even since you can't pick lower than 32.

To put that in perspective, if we pick in the middle of the 1st round next year, it's the 15th(1050 value) we would be in the negative 566 in trade value.
That chart means jack and shit anymore to anyone other than talking heads.
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Sitting is the best for Mahomes. Anyone that's watched him play agrees.

Reid and Smith are the perfect mentors for a guy whose family has LIVED professional sports, meaning he'll be coachable.

I can't believe you're the same guy stumping for Tyler Bray in the first, yet have hesitation about Mahomes.

Oh, wait...
I never stumped for Tyler Bray. In any round. Or in any capacity as the Chiefs QBOTF.

I hope to god he's coachable because he has some real bad habits that have ****ed a lot of QBs at the pro level. He has a lot of Johnny Football in him. And then there's the history of Tech QBs. Gross.

He was always a 2nd round prospect to me. And they just gave up 2 1sts and a 3rd for him.

That's a lot. They better be right or criticism will be absolutely valid, especially pending Watson's career.

But it's still better than sitting here bitching about Alex Smith, so, as I said previously tonight, I'll accept it, and will definitely be present at his first NFL start.
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I see a lot of people on here celebrating but I don't see analysts calling this a fantastic pick. Dorsey is a great GM but he's busted on picks too. A lot of the excitement in here is coming from simply the fact that we drafted a QB in the first round but when you look at this and last year's QBs he is probably the third best of the group at best. Now, what he could be in two years remains to be seen. He's 21 and raw, this stupidity that he should start soon is foolish

Gruden is comparing this trade to the trade the Packers made for Brett Favre
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