So it begins..Browns might take Trubisky 1st overall?

[RunKC]

Adam Schefter

Just had an NFL exec tell me, "Don't be surprised if Myles Garrett isn't the No. 1 pick." Exec convinced a QB is in discussion at No. 1.

Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes will all be gone by pick 13.

[ILChief]

We are going to end up with Peterman

[RealSNR]

Meh on Foster. It's not Dorsey's style to drop a 1st round bomb to fix a starter's hole in the roster.

He's going to take advantage of the deep class of ILBs and grab a guy with starting potential in the 3rd/4th rounds like he always does, only this time the expectation is the guy he picks is going to be WAAAAY more apt for being a great player than Ramik Wilson or Nico Johnson of the past years, both of them whom had significant flaws in their games to fix before they could even sniff the productivity of someone like DJ.

[The Franchise]

If we're trading up....it's more than likely going to be for a QB. I don't see him trading up for an ILB.

[RunKC]

If this team passes on a QB the pick better be a CB. There are top shelf CB's available in the late first rd that are top 15 picks any other year.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If this team passes on a QB the pick better be a CB. There are top shelf CB's available in the late first rd that are top 15 picks any other year.

**** that noise. With Mitchell, I'd rather wait and get one in the 3rd-4th where there will still be potential starters at the position. Front 7 or QB at 27.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

**** that noise. WithbMitchell, I'd rather wait and get one in the 3rd-4th where there will still be potential starters at the position. Front 7 or QB at 27.

There's not a DL that I would draft rd 1. Not even Wormley. And **** Jarrad Davis/Zach cunningham.

Pass rusher? Hell yes from me..probably not from Dorsey.

CB is deep but the guys in rd 1 look special. I'm talking true #1 caliber corners. Just imagine one paired with Peters. Holy shit

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

There's not a DL that I would draft rd 1. Not even Wormley. And **** Jarrad Davis/Zach cunningham.

Pass rusher? Hell yes from me..probably not from Dorsey.

CB is deep but the guys in rd 1 look special. I'm talking true #1 caliber corners. Just imagine one paired with Peters. Holy shit

Malik McDowell got invited to the draft which usually means they have a really good shot at going in the 1st, so I think he's a darkhorse. Miller said scouts are saying Wormley will go higher than expected too.

Davis is so underrated on CP. His 2015 tape when he was healthy is really ****ing good.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Meh on Foster. It's not Dorsey's style to drop a 1st round bomb to fix a starter's hole in the roster.

He's going to take advantage of the deep class of ILBs and grab a guy with starting potential in the 3rd/4th rounds like he always does, only this time the expectation is the guy he picks is going to be WAAAAY more apt for being a great player than Ramik Wilson or Nico Johnson of the past years, both of them whom had significant flaws in their games to fix before they could even sniff the productivity of someone like DJ.

Foster is not a "meh" player. He will change any defense he goes to. A physical intimidator who easily has the best instincts in this class: Kuechly-like.

We have been spoiled with over a decade of DJ, who has arguably been one of our most dependable players with elite talent.

This ILB class is not deep. Outside of Foster, maybe Cunningham and Davis are every-down players. The Duke Riley's, Raekwon McMillan's, Alex Anzalone's of the world all have question marks and red flags.

You cite that we can nab a starter in round 3/4. Guess where Ramik Wilson was drafted? You wan't another Ramik Wilson caliber player starting?

A smart trade-up for Foster if he falls a bit would be a coup.
Hali and DJ will be following Charles out the door shortly. Tough guys to replace when you consider their overall contributions to the franchise.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Foster is not a "meh" player. He will change any defense he goes to. A physical intimidator who easily has the best instincts in this class: Kuechly-like.

We have been spoiled with over a decade of DJ, who has arguably been one of our most dependable players with elite talent.

This ILB class is not deep. Outside of Foster, maybe Cunningham and Davis are every-down players. The Duke Riley's, Raekwon McMillan's, Alex Anzalone's of the world all have question marks and red flags.

You cite that we can nab a starter in round 3/4. Guess where Ramik Wilson was drafted? You wan't another Ramik Wilson caliber player starting?

A smart trade-up for Foster if he falls a bit would be a coup.
Hali and DJ will be following Charles out the door shortly. Tough guys to replace when you consider their overall contributions to the franchise.

I'd rather flip a 5th for Kendricks.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Malik McDowell got invited to the draft which usually means they have a really good shot at going in the 1st, so I think he's a darkhorse. Miller said scouts are saying Wormley will go higher than expected too.

Davis is so underrated on CP. His 2015 tape when he was healthy is really ****ing good.

McDowell is lazy. Pass. Football is not important to him.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Foster is not a "meh" player. He will change any defense he goes to. A physical intimidator who easily has the best instincts in this class: Kuechly-like.

We have been spoiled with over a decade of DJ, who has arguably been one of our most dependable players with elite talent.

This ILB class is not deep. Outside of Foster, maybe Cunningham and Davis are every-down players. The Duke Riley's, Raekwon McMillan's, Alex Anzalone's of the world all have question marks and red flags.

You cite that we can nab a starter in round 3/4. Guess where Ramik Wilson was drafted? You wan't another Ramik Wilson caliber player starting?

A smart trade-up for Foster if he falls a bit would be a coup.
Hali and DJ will be following Charles out the door shortly. Tough guys to replace when you consider their overall contributions to the franchise.

Wow, you can't ****ing read. I didn't say Foster was meh. I said "meh" to Foster. The idea of trading up to go get him.

And I even MENTIONED the Ramik ****ing Wilson in my last goddamn post. Christ, you suck.

There are a ton of 3-down LBs in this draft. We don't need to blow the **** up to get one, especially not trading up that far in the draft for one. I don't care if he shoots cinnamon buns out his goddamn urethra for all the Arrowhead fans.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Foster is not a "meh" player. He will change any defense he goes to. A physical intimidator who easily has the best instincts in this class: Kuechly-like.

We have been spoiled with over a decade of DJ, who has arguably been one of our most dependable players with elite talent.

This ILB class is not deep. Outside of Foster, maybe Cunningham and Davis are every-down players. The Duke Riley's, Raekwon McMillan's, Alex Anzalone's of the world all have question marks and red flags.

You cite that we can nab a starter in round 3/4. Guess where Ramik Wilson was drafted? You wan't another Ramik Wilson caliber player starting?

A smart trade-up for Foster if he falls a bit would be a coup.
Hali and DJ will be following Charles out the door shortly. Tough guys to replace when you consider their overall contributions to the franchise.

And so we continue to go 1 and done in the playoffs.

I'm not going to shit all over every thread with "it doesn't matter with Alex under center" but I will say that ANY trade up that doesn't replace Alex Smith is absolutely asinine. It costs us assets that could be used to replace Smith next year while in the process doing nothing to raise the ceiling of this team past the playoff fodder it presently is.

Alex Smith will never be anything more than the bit player in a better quarterback's story. He's the guy that champions beat to become champions - he's not a guy that ever does the winning.

Trading up to draft Foster would be as stupid at taking Tyson Jackson at 3. Okay, nothing's that stupid. But it would be stupid. This team doesn't win a championship with Reuben Foster in the middle and Alex Smith or Nate Peterman under center.

Some day it might win a championship with Jarrad Davis in the middle and Pat Mahomes under center.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'd rather flip a 5th for Kendricks.

I'd rather sign Hodges....

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I didn't say Foster was meh. I said "meh" to Foster. The idea of trading up to go get him.

The last LB we find who can be a 3-down player should be our pick. We've got a better run-stuffer at NT now, but that doesn't mean we should spend all that draft stock on trying to find Luke Kuechly.

Eh, theres maybe 3 of those in this draft.

The class isn't as deep as you think it is. Beyond the first 2/3, the guys with the speed lack the size. The guys with the size lack the speed and/or instincts. The rare person that comes close on both has injury questions.

It's a pretty bad ILB class, IMO.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Malik McDowell got invited to the draft which usually means they have a really good shot at going in the 1st, so I think he's a darkhorse. Miller said scouts are saying Wormley will go higher than expected too.

Davis is so underrated on CP. His 2015 tape when he was healthy is really ****ing good.

I highly doubt Dorsey will reach for an ILB, nor should he with the incredible talent available.

Just think of what one of these CB's will allow us to do. We can stack the box more to defend the run and we can blitz more with reliable coverage.

It's a win-win and would affect the game in a huge way.

I'm down for taking an ILB, but I'm not so sure Dorsey will with Houston/Ford solidifying the starting spots.