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Old 04-11-2017, 07:46 PM  
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So it begins..Browns might take Trubisky 1st overall?
Adam Schefter

Just had an NFL exec tell me, "Don't be surprised if Myles Garrett isn't the No. 1 pick." Exec convinced a QB is in discussion at No. 1.

Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes will all be gone by pick 13.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:08 AM   #76
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You're really underestimating the talent at the top of the draft. I just can't see those QB needy teams passing up on studs ready to play now for QB's that need a redshirt year. We're one of the very few teams that make sense in the 1st for guys like Watson and Mahomes, which is why we're being connected frequently in mocks. Just look at Lynch and the Broncos last year. As the draft got closer, we thought he had no chance of getting close to our pick, but teams picking early are going to have a hard time taking a QB that has to sit AT LEAST a year.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:09 AM   #77
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Also from Schefter..

Cleveland has not made up its mind at No. 1, per source. Split opinions. Some like Myles Garrett, some like Mitchell Trubisky. We will see.
Leaks to try to convince someone to trade up.

Nobody is going to bite (or if they do, it will have nothing to do with this stupid leak but rather a king's ransom to get Garrett) - Garrett is by far and away the class of the field this year and the Browns have another pick at 12 with no clear distinction between the QBs.

They can take the consensus #1 player in the draft (by a TON) and still get a QB that is as likely to be successful as Trubisky is at 12, if only because they're all dice rolls in this draft.

Stupid article is stupid.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:31 AM   #78
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Leaks to try to convince someone to trade up.

Nobody is going to bite (or if they do, it will have nothing to do with this stupid leak but rather a king's ransom to get Garrett) - Garrett is by far and away the class of the field this year and the Browns have another pick at 12 with no clear distinction between the QBs.

They can take the consensus #1 player in the draft (by a TON) and still get a QB that is as likely to be successful as Trubisky is at 12, if only because they're all dice rolls in this draft.

Stupid article is stupid.
This. Either draft him, or trade the pick for capital next year
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:44 AM   #79
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I want the Joe Williams kid at RB by round 3. Medium risk, high reward.
You're shitting me.

A guy that quit the team his senior year, has serious fumble issues, can't catch out of the backfield and can't pass protect is 'medium risk'?

WTF qualifies as 'high risk' in your world? Does one have to actually be indicted for murder during the pre-draft process before he hits that mark?

Oh, and as for high reward - dude's fast, but he's not agile, he's an upright runner and again - fumbles all the time and can't catch passes out of the backfield.

Joe Williams is a shit, shit, SHIT prospect, especially for this team. He's a worthwhile gamble in the 7th (because again - speed), but that's about it. There are literally 15 running backs in this draft more likely to contribute to this team than Joe Williams. Hell, there are 2 running backs named Williams more likely to contribute.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:46 AM   #80
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You're shitting me.

A guy that quit the team his senior year, has serious fumble issues, can't catch out of the backfield and can't pass protect is 'medium risk'?

WTF qualifies as 'high risk' in your world? Does one have to actually be indicted for murder during the pre-draft process before he hits that mark?

Oh, and as for high reward - dude's fast, but he's not agile, he's an upright runner and again - fumbles all the time and can't catch passes out of the backfield.

Joe Williams is a shit, shit, SHIT prospect, especially for this team. He's a worthwhile gamble in the 7th (because again - speed), but that's about it. There are literally 15 running backs in this draft more likely to contribute to this team than Joe Williams. Hell, there are 2 running backs named Williams more likely to contribute.
Look who you ****ing quoted.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:48 AM   #81
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Look who you ****ing quoted.
Oh.

I tend not to look closely at the poster because it colors my tone (I try to avoid being an asshole...I really do).

That makes more sense.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:52 AM   #82
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Oh, and as for high reward - dude's fast, but he's not agile, he's an upright runner and again - fumbles all the time and can't catch passes out of the backfield.

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So...he's Knile Davis?
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Leaks to try to convince someone to trade up.

Nobody is going to bite (or if they do, it will have nothing to do with this stupid leak but rather a king's ransom to get Garrett) - Garrett is by far and away the class of the field this year and the Browns have another pick at 12 with no clear distinction between the QBs.

They can take the consensus #1 player in the draft (by a TON) and still get a QB that is as likely to be successful as Trubisky is at 12, if only because they're all dice rolls in this draft.

Stupid article is stupid.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:20 AM   #84
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DJLN nailed it, IMO. All this means is that Cleveland is probably open to a trade for the right price, which would be a ton.

As I have said all along, if the Chiefs want a QB in the first round, they need to trade up a little bit. It sends a message that you really believe in the player, and they can also afford to trade picks right now more so than most teams. Maybe trade up to the late teens, early twenties. But this idea that all of the top guys will be gone by 15... not buying it whatsoever.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:24 AM   #85
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DJLN nailed it, IMO. All this means is that Cleveland is probably open to a trade for the right price, which would be a ton.

As I have said all along, if the Chiefs want a QB in the first round, they need to trade up a little bit. It sends a message that you really believe in the player, and they can also afford to trade picks right now more so than most teams. Maybe trade up to the late teens, early twenties. But this idea that all of the top guys will be gone by 15... not buying it whatsoever.
If we trade up for a QB Dorsey would really have to love the kid. Otherwise it won't happen.
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If we trade up for a QB Dorsey would really have to love the kid. Otherwise it won't happen.
If we take a QB at 27 Dorsey would really have to love the kid, so I don't really see your point?
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If we trade up for a QB Dorsey would really have to love the kid. Otherwise it won't happen.
That's why he should do it. If you really want a kid, make it clear. Part ways with a pick or two and go get the guy that you want to portray as the future face of the organization.

Of course, they may not love any of them. They could just as easily trade back or stand pat and draft a defensive player.
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"Trubisky, Watson and Mahommes will all be picked in the top 10 and at some point the Chiefs will select Nate Peterman, Brad Kaaya or Josh Dobbs"

With every day that gets closer to the draft, that sentence becomes more and more true.

There is no point in drafting any one of those turds. Stop posting this
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The NFL is desperate to try to create some type of argument about who will go #1. Boring tv since Garrett has been the favorite since day 1.
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