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Old 04-11-2017, 07:46 PM  
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So it begins..Browns might take Trubisky 1st overall?
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Just had an NFL exec tell me, "Don't be surprised if Myles Garrett isn't the No. 1 pick." Exec convinced a QB is in discussion at No. 1.

Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes will all be gone by pick 13.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:24 PM   #31
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There is zero chance Watson or Mahomes is anywhere near our pick. They are both top 15 picks...looking like top 10.

Andy ****ed up his golden chance by passing on Derek Carr for Alex ****ing goddamn Smith. Dorsey has him high on the board right there to pick and Andy chose this soft bitch QB over him.

if the Chiefs get a QB later in the draft, it will be because Dorsey is a goddamned wizard.
Hell will freeze over before Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes all go top 10, or even top 15. Every year people expect QBs to be drafted higher than they will be. Just look at 2014 with Carr, Bridgewater, and Manziel.

It's a lot easier for teams to say they might take a project QB in the top 10 on April 11th than it is on Draft Day. When they have blue chip talent right in front of them, for teams who have holes everywhere, that will be hard to pass up.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:37 PM   #32
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Hell will freeze over before Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes all go top 10, or even top 15. Every year people expect QBs to be drafted higher than they will be. Just look at 2014 with Carr, Bridgewater, and Manziel.

It's a lot easier for teams to say they might take a project QB in the top 10 on April 11th than it is on Draft Day. When they have blue chip talent right in front of them, for teams who have holes everywhere, that will be hard to pass up.
Exactly. All the draft gurus I trust seem to feel the same way also.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:40 PM   #33
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Hell will freeze over before Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes all go top 10, or even top 15. Every year people expect QBs to be drafted higher than they will be. Just look at 2014 with Carr, Bridgewater, and Manziel.

It's a lot easier for teams to say they might take a project QB in the top 10 on April 11th than it is on Draft Day. When they have blue chip talent right in front of them, for teams who have holes everywhere, that will be hard to pass up.
Carr was practically never thought of as a first round QB. He was one of those, "Eh, maybe in the middle rounds" guys early in the draft season who crept up to a 2nd round pick and eventually got SOME consideration as a late 1st.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:42 PM   #34
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Carr was not thought of well bc of his brother and Teddy fell bc of his hand size and small weak frame (which was proven right).

There are more QB needy teams this year.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:49 PM   #35
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Carr was not thought of well bc of his brother and Teddy fell bc of his hand size and small weak frame (which was proven right).

There are more QB needy teams this year.
You're really underestimating the talent at the top of the draft. I just can't see those QB needy teams passing up on studs ready to play now for QB's that need a redshirt year. We're one of the very few teams that make sense in the 1st for guys like Watson and Mahomes, which is why we're being connected frequently in mocks. Just look at Lynch and the Broncos last year. As the draft got closer, we thought he had no chance of getting close to our pick, but teams picking early are going to have a hard time taking a QB that has to sit AT LEAST a year.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:54 PM   #36
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You're really underestimating the talent at the top of the draft. I just can't see those QB needy teams passing up on studs ready to play now for QB's that need a redshirt year. We're one of the very few teams that make sense in the 1st for guys like Watson and Mahomes, which is why we're being connected frequently in mocks. Just look at Lynch and the Broncos last year.
It's an extremely deep draft at RB, TE, Edge, S, CB and WR is decently deep too. Teams can afford to take a QB in rd 1 and get a couple starting caliber players to fill holes.

There's a ton of smoke around Watson and Mahommes. 18 teams are visiting with Mahomes...most of any QB prospect.

He's going top 15
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It's an extremely deep draft at RB, TE, Edge, S, CB and WR is decently deep too. Teams can afford to take a QB in rd 1 and get a couple starting caliber players to fill holes.

There's a ton of smoke around Watson and Mahommes. 18 teams are visiting with Mahomes...most of any QB prospect.

He's going top 15
You and I said the same thing about Lynch last year. I'm not going to be so quick to fall for that again. A guy that needs as much work as Mahomes does is not a lock for the top 15. Same as Watson.
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Old 04-11-2017, 10:19 PM   #38
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Didn't the browns suck so bad they moved to Baltimore one time?
and cleveland should have never let them back in.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:11 AM   #40
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No QB is going #1...this is just click-bait smoke.
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No QB is going #1...this is just click-bait smoke.
its actually good strategy if the browns are baiting others that are interested in him. if no one bites, they take miles, and mitch(el) at 12. win win for the browns if rumor is true.

ETA: hell, they could even use the 12 as bait too, get more picks. lets say NO ONE talks to cleveland about the number one pick for mitch. then they ask, would you part with something for the 12 spot. i get the feeling cleveland is going to end up with the entire draft board for the 18 and 19 seasons
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its actually good strategy if the browns are baiting others that are interested in him. if no one bites, they take miles, and mitch(el) at 12. win win for the browns if rumor is true.

ETA: hell, they could even use the 12 as bait too, get more picks. lets say NO ONE talks to cleveland about the number one pick for mitch. then they ask, would you part with something for the 12 spot. i get the feeling cleveland is going to end up with the entire draft board for the 18 and 19 seasons
I hope all the early QBs KC is considering are gone....there is going to be some talent left at #27. This is the type of draft to build a future foundation around.

KC needs an OLB, ILB, RB, and CB...they might pick up another TE too.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:54 AM   #43
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They are taking Garrett #1, simple. What they do from there though with #12 and many more picks is anyone's guess. They could trade up to #2 with the remainder if they wanted to. Maybe they trade up ahead of the Jets to #5 and take Trubisky there. You never know. But they aren't passing on Garrett, not a chance in hell.
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They are taking Garrett #1, simple. What they do from there though with #12 and many more picks is anyone's guess. They could trade up to #2 with the remainder if they wanted to. Maybe they trade up ahead of the Jets to #5 and take Trubisky there. You never know. But they aren't passing on Garrett, not a chance in hell.
you are missing the point. trade bait.
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As it has been said many times. It's the time of year you don't believe a goddamned thing coming from NFL FOs.

a QB will be the Browns 12th overall pick.
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