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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:50 PM   #706
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He's afraid. His competitive spirit is gone.

I think it also explains the lack or rushing, too.

He's looking at his wife and two small kids, after bouncing his skull off that shit field in Indy.
His self-benching the week after the non-concussion made that crystal clear.
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:52 PM   #707
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Bullshit
He was getting paid almost that in Buffalo. Next season he was going to make $16 million. He had a 5 year, 90 mil deal.

What do you think the going rate is for a guy like that who hits FA? 28-year old starting QBs don't hit FA every year.

There will be a lot of suitors.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:00 PM   #708
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In that case, who starts and isnt a complete embarrassment?
A rookie. If I'm forced to keep one, I'd keep Smith. He's the better QB as much as some would hate to admit it.

But if I don't have to keep one, I'd cut both and move on. Im not even a bring Romo in fan, but if I have to have a vet QB to start while the rookie learns, I'd MUCH rather have him than either Foles or Smith.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:02 PM   #709
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He was getting paid almost that in Buffalo. Next season he was going to make $16 million. He had a 5 year, 90 mil deal.

What do you think the going rate is for a guy like that who hits FA? 28-year old starting QBs don't hit FA every year.

There will be a lot of suitors.
$16MM is almost $20MM? Neat math.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:04 PM   #710
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New plan. Get rid of em all.

Trade Alex Smith to Cleveland for a swap of 1st round picks #12 for #27.

Trade Nick Foles to New York for their 3rd round pick #70.

Trade Tyler Bray to the Bears for a bag of peanuts and a 7th round pick.

Pretend we're the Redskins...

Draft Mahomes at #12.

Draft Peterman with our own 3rd #91

Draft Kelly in round 5

Get an extra QB coach.

Championship.
No one is giving up a 3rd for Foles. Especially with his contract. But a swap of firsts would be a good deal for Smith and I am a fan of drafting 2 QBs even though doing it in the first two rounds like the Redskins did is just too much. I'd draft one in the first round and then another in the 5th-7th round.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:09 PM   #711
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A rookie. If I'm forced to keep one, I'd keep Smith. He's the better QB as much as some would hate to admit it.

But if I don't have to keep one, I'd cut both and move on. Im not even a bring Romo in fan, but if I have to have a vet QB to start while the rookie learns, I'd MUCH rather have him than either Foles or Smith.
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I generally agree with your football takes, cant believe this is where you're at

Truth is none of us know what Foles could amount to in a full time role under Reid... the only thing any of us can be certain of is that...

a) it will be a much more exciting brand of football

b) that Hill, Kelce and Maclin will rarely streak wide open and not get their due targets

Fors Gods sake, dont even TRY to tell me that Smith doesnt demoralize his playmakers... we see it every. ****ing. game

They're waving their hands in vain, slumping their shoulders in vain... Reid must surely do a great job of tamping it down, because under a lesser HC offensive skill players would be RIOTING by now
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:12 PM   #712
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You do know that Andrew Luck beat Alex Smith in 2014 playoffs right? Alex started out the game great but couldn't finish the job and let the Colts back in it and Andrew Luck made the big plays and Alex Smith did a choke job because he doesn't play consistent four quarters.


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Wow. This is a horrible take.
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I generally agree with your football takes, cant believe this is where you're at

Truth is none of us know what Foles could amount to in a full time role under Reid... the only thing any of us can be certain of is that...

a) it will be a much more exciting brand of football

b) that Hill, Kelce and Maclin will rarely streak wide open and not get their due targets

Fors Gods sake, dont even TRY to tell me that Smith doesnt demoralize his playmakers... we see it every. ****ing. game

They're waving their hands in vain, slumping their shoulders in vain... Reid muct surely do a great job of tamping it down, because under a lesser HC offensive skill players would be RIOTING by now
I think the number of underthrown/overthrown passes would balance out or even outnumber the number of exciting plays with Foles.

And while people say they're okay with interceptions if they come with big plays, they ignore how much turnovers determine games in the NFL.
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$16MM is almost $20MM? Neat math.
That was when he wasn't a free agent.

Teams are QB desperate.

I would be surprised if he got less than 20M.
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I think the number of underthrown/overthrown passes would balance out or even outnumber the number of exciting plays with Foles.

And while people say they're okay with interceptions if they come with big plays, they ignore how much turnovers determine games in the NFL.
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Nick Foles isn't a turnover prone QB.

His career INT% is LOWER than Alex Smith's.
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He's going to command $20M/year.

You willing to pay that?
No way, that's why he's being cut.
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His self-benching the week after the non-concussion made that crystal clear.
I actually had a couple guys argue the other day it was all Reid.
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No way, that's why he's being cut.
He's being cut because the Bills are stupid.

With the Browns, Jets, 49ers and maybe even the Broncos all needing a QB....there will be a bidding war.
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12 QBs already make 20 mil a year. TT will be close to that.
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He made 6 million last year and is getting cut to not have to pay. 16 next year.

We will see what his market is.
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