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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:09 PM   #541
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We played numerous bad defenses and Smith did nothing. Every other QB killed it but ours. Smith is just the worst in the league hands down.
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:30 PM   #542
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Let me go get the playbook that Andy gave me....

....shit, guess I can't find it.

What I can say is that yes, I did play WR in high school and to this day can still tell you my route tree. And yes, I know quite a bit about the game and am absolutely certain that EVERYBODY is taught to look to their outside shoulder on a flag route (again, unless it's a designed back shoulder throw and nothing Maclin did in running his route suggests that it was).

Again, just think of the physical machinations involved in looking over your inside shoulder on that route. Your feet follow your shoulders and your shoulders follow your head - it's virtually impossible to stay on the correct track for a flag route if you turn your head inside; you'll flatten out that route every time.

So sadly, as I seem to have misplaced my 2017 Chiefs playbook, the best I can give you is a circumstantial case. 1) That was a flag route with a DB that had inside position on the WR. 2) WRs are taught to look to their outside shoulder on flag routes due to basic body mechanics and the fact that the route is usually set up to draw the WR to the inside and thus give the QB the boundary to throw at (and the WR can shield the DB away from the ball). 3) The throw was perfectly placed at the flag. 4) Maclin did nothing as he attempted to find the ball that suggested that he was supposed to do anything other than run under it and bring it in over a shoulder (virtually impossible and 100x more difficult to do from the inside shoulder). 5) Maclin has made several odd mistakes in routes this year and has recently admitted that he simply hasn't been right this year mentally or physically.

Absolutely every bit of circumstantial evidence and basic reasoning suggests that the throw was designed to go to the outside shoulder. It's a basic staple play. I've actually presented a case for it and the best anyone has said in response is....well nothing really. You're asking me to just assume that the guy that's had a pretty poor year made the right play when in fact every readily available piece of evidence suggests the opposite.

If you think Smith screwed up, by all means, give me something other than "well Maclin was open" as your argument. Because Smith threw the ball exactly where an open Maclin would've caught it and strolled into the end-zone had he simply looked over the other shoulder. Smith led Maclin, Maclin just didn't locate the ball.
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:41 PM   #543
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Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:43 PM   #544
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:52 PM   #545
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:56 PM   #546
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Gee look what a competent QB does to this defense.
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Gee look what a competent QB does to this defense.
And it's not like he's out there playing amazing football.

These are easy pitch/catch plays and they were everywhere for a QB that isn't feeling phantom pressure and refusing to release the ball.

I still think Trevor Seimien wins that game. Fireable performance from Smith, without question.
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Gee, who could have predicted that this game would be a further, and damning indictment of Smith?


Dorsey needs to call Clark and pull rank.

Or establish it.
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And it's not like he's out there playing amazing football.

These are easy pitch/catch plays and they were everywhere for a QB that isn't feeling phantom pressure and refusing to release the ball.

I still think Trevor Seimien wins that game. Fireable performance from Smith, without question.
Oh god you just had to put that salt in the wound? I agree but goddamn is that some depressing shit
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384 yards without breaking a sweat.

This question is answered. Again, I'm not holding him to the standard of Brady, but the Pats didn't even try in the 4th quarter.

In a game where you were losing almost the whole game and the running game couldn't get on track, 300+ yards should have been simple.

If Brady needed 500 in that game, he'd have had it. Smith needed 300 and couldn't swing it.

The book is closed here, IMO. Time to move on.
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The book is closed here, IMO. Time to move on.
So what's the plan?
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Gaines is out, Charles is out. Let's just tank this season. Trade away Daniel for a 2nd-3rd round pick and surrender a future 4th/5th. And pray we can build an elite defense for next season behind our strong front. Draft OL again (Sigh) and prepare West to be a split carries guy with Jamaal.

Plenty of options out there to bring in a WR2, such as Sanu or Jones which Bengals can't afford both in free agency.

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