Chiefs Alright, so WHO do you replace Alex with? - Page 14

Direckshun · 01-17-2017, 01:44 PM

I'm in favor like everybody else on this board (and 85% of the NFL) of upgrading at QB.

But there is nobody to do that with.

It's easy to say it should be done.

Which of these steps are you willing to take?

Poll coming.

DJ's left nut · 01-18-2017, 02:19 PM

Fisher was the LT for one of the best pass-blocking teams in the game this year. And our struggles in the run game had little do to with the stretch plays, etc... that he would've been heavily involved in.

Fisher was a big time asset this season and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. He was the clear best choice for 1.1 and the extension he got will be a bargain for every season he plays under it.

Fisher is making lemons into lemonade. Shit draft year, but Dorsey did a damn fine job with the cards he was dealt.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-18-2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Fisher was the LT for one of the best pass-blocking teams in the game this year. And our struggles in the run game had little do to with the stretch plays, etc... that he would've been heavily involved in.

Fisher was a big time asset this season and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. He was the clear best choice for 1.1 and the extension he got will be a bargain for every season he plays under it.

Fisher is making lemons into lemonade. Shit draft year, but Dorsey did a damn fine job with the cards he was dealt.

Now, if the Chiefs could add Ron Leary for 4/$16, the offensive line would take a huge step forward...

GloryDayz · 01-18-2017, 02:30 PM

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Defensive holding. Five yard penalty and - oh, wait. That's a Steeler. Never mind.

Well, to be honest, he didn't have him arm-bar hooked with a noogie twist, that's usually got to be the defensive hold technique that actually gets flagged.

NFL officials are ass-hats, and the first to be offended when the use of technology is suggested to help "fill in the gaps" they choose to not be looking at. I hope Karma has them all catch AIDS!

Oh, "the game would be too long." Yeah, lord knows more commercial breaks is the last thing those money-grubbing whores want a chance at.

DJ's left nut · 01-18-2017, 02:31 PM

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Now, if the Chiefs could add Ron Leary for 4/$16, the offensive line would take a huge step forward...

28 with a degenerative knee?

Eh....I think we just saw his last great year because he didn't have to go a full season and he pretty much spent all of 2015 on the bench. That gave that knee plenty of time to rest and firm up.

But if you're signing him to a sizeable deal, you're rolling with him as the starter and I think you're going to get seriously diminishing returns.

I'd rather see another mid-rounder (4thish) allocated to OG. Fulton has plateaued (at best) and it's probably time to upgrade there if at all possible.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-18-2017, 02:35 PM

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28 with a degenerative knee?

I wasn't aware of the knee issue. Well, that sucks (for him).

**Buehler445** · 01-18-2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We've all seen how the movie ends with Smith at QB and there's no doubt that he's declining.

IMO, the Chiefs should renegotiate Foles contract to something like 3 years, $22 million ($7 million or so per), then do whatever it takes to draft Mahomes, whether it's giving up all of their Comp Picks or a pick next year along with their #1 this year.

After the draft, trade or release Alex Smith. Go into TC with Foles and Mahomes as the #1 & #2, with Bray or someone else competing for the #3 spot.

At this point, after seeing Foles against Indy and Jax, while spending a full year with Reid, Nagy and Childress, I don't know how his performance would differ from another season of Alex Smith.

It's time to ****ing move on.

I'm not saying it isn't the best decision, but Foles was garbage on the short throws in those games. Say what you want about smith but he can put it where it needs to be when it needs to be there on the short stuff. Which is perplexing because Fokes throws so nice of deep ball but can't hit the short stuff. Maybe it's timing. Maybe it's rust. Maybe it's correctable technique, but his accuracy on the short stuff was bad.

Which is probably his death knell with Reid.

Direckshun · 01-18-2017, 09:40 PM

Can somebody explain to me the benefit of keeping Foles and cutting Smith?

I understand bringing in a highly drafted rookie to redshirt, but why Foles?

He's as much a known commodity as Smith is, and simply isn't as good.

Direckshun · 01-18-2017, 09:42 PM

Also, it perfectly encapsulates the impotent rage of ChiefsPlanet that their most popular ideas of how to improve at QB is to "get rid of Smith," followed by "I have no idea."

Mr. Laz · 01-18-2017, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Can somebody explain to me the benefit of keeping Foles and cutting Smith?

I understand bringing in a highly drafted rookie to redshirt, but why Foles?

He's as much a known commodity as Smith is, and simply isn't as good.

Some people think he is just as good as Smith and would be cheaper.

Even if he's as good as Smith, Foles has a $10 million dollar clause in his contract that pretty much forces the Chiefs to renegotiate his deal. Foles won't be cheap next year unless the FA market forces him to be cheap.

Mostly it's just the nuts who think Smith is terrible and want anyone but him.

Hammock Parties · 01-18-2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Can somebody explain to me the benefit of keeping Foles and cutting Smith?

I understand bringing in a highly drafted rookie to redshirt, but why Foles?

He's as much a known commodity as Smith is, and simply isn't as good.

Nick Foles has started 36 games.

Smith has started 136.

He's not even in the same stratosphere as far as "known commodities" go.

And to be honest, his first 36 games shit all over Smith's first 36 games.

You want to see what you truly have in Foles and save a bunch of money at the QB position before drafting a kid in 2018?

Go with Foles. **** it. You have nothing to lose. This team doesn't have a shot at the SB next season, and Foles looked fine in relief duty last year. He had the highest QB rating, highest YPA, highest TD%, lowest INT% on the team.

**RealSNR** · 01-18-2017, 09:54 PM

Also, **** Brad Kaaya. I don't want anything to do with that asshole

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-18-2017, 09:55 PM

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Also, **** Brad Kaaya. I don't want anything to do with that asshole

Bye, Felicia

Hammock Parties · 01-18-2017, 09:59 PM

After his first 36 starts, Alex Smith had a 32-38 TD-INT ratio and a 69 QB rating and a 13-23 record.

He improved to "second only to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers" 100 starts later.

But Nick Foles, who is standing at 56-27/88.1/20-16 in the same categories...can't improve.

Just admit you have an unhealthy obsession with game managers.

**RealSNR** · 01-18-2017, 09:59 PM

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Bye, Felicia

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-18-2017, 10:01 PM

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It must suck for his mom

View Poll Results: What's your answer at QB?
I'd throw $90m to $100m at Kirk Cousins.	12	10.08%
Brian Hoyer	0	0%
Mike Glennon	0	0%
Ryan Fitzpatrick	1	0.84%
Geno Smith	3	2.52%
Retain Nick Foles	26	21.85%
Trade half of the next two drafts to go up and get DeShaun Watson.	25	21.01%
Trade half of the next two drafts to go up and get Mitch Tribusky.	8	6.72%
Trade half of the next two drafts to go up and get DeShone Kizer.	8	6.72%
Patrick Mahomes II in round 2.	24	20.17%
Brad Kaaya in Round 3.	3	2.52%
Trade a high pick and/or shell out $$$ for Tony Romo.	6	5.04%
Trade a high pick and/or shell out $$$ for Philip Rivers.	18	15.13%
Cut/trade Alex Smith.	29	24.37%
I don't really know.	30	25.21%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 119. You may not vote on this poll

01-17-2017, 01:44 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2143447	Alright, so WHO do you replace Alex with? I'm in favor like everybody else on this board (and 85% of the NFL) of upgrading at QB. But there is nobody to do that with. It's easy to say it should be done. Which of these steps are you willing to take? Poll coming.
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01-18-2017, 02:19 PM	#196
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-610901	Fisher was the LT for one of the best pass-blocking teams in the game this year. And our struggles in the run game had little do to with the stretch plays, etc... that he would've been heavily involved in. Fisher was a big time asset this season and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. He was the clear best choice for 1.1 and the extension he got will be a bargain for every season he plays under it. Fisher is making lemons into lemonade. Shit draft year, but Dorsey did a damn fine job with the cards he was dealt. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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01-18-2017, 09:40 PM	#202
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2143447	Can somebody explain to me the benefit of keeping Foles and cutting Smith? I understand bringing in a highly drafted rookie to redshirt, but why Foles? He's as much a known commodity as Smith is, and simply isn't as good.
Posts: 59,688

01-18-2017, 09:42 PM	#203
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2143447	Also, it perfectly encapsulates the impotent rage of ChiefsPlanet that their most popular ideas of how to improve at QB is to "get rid of Smith," followed by "I have no idea."
Posts: 59,688

01-18-2017, 09:59 PM	#208
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1050478	After his first 36 starts, Alex Smith had a 32-38 TD-INT ratio and a 69 QB rating and a 13-23 record. He improved to "second only to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers" 100 starts later. But Nick Foles, who is standing at 56-27/88.1/20-16 in the same categories...can't improve. Just admit you have an unhealthy obsession with game managers.
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