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View Poll Results: What's your answer at QB?
I'd throw $90m to $100m at Kirk Cousins. 12 10.08%
Brian Hoyer 0 0%
Mike Glennon 0 0%
Ryan Fitzpatrick 1 0.84%
Geno Smith 3 2.52%
Retain Nick Foles 26 21.85%
Trade half of the next two drafts to go up and get DeShaun Watson. 25 21.01%
Trade half of the next two drafts to go up and get Mitch Tribusky. 8 6.72%
Trade half of the next two drafts to go up and get DeShone Kizer. 8 6.72%
Patrick Mahomes II in round 2. 24 20.17%
Brad Kaaya in Round 3. 3 2.52%
Trade a high pick and/or shell out $$$ for Tony Romo. 6 5.04%
Trade a high pick and/or shell out $$$ for Philip Rivers. 18 15.13%
Cut/trade Alex Smith. 29 24.37%
I don't really know. 30 25.21%
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:44 PM  
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Alright, so WHO do you replace Alex with?
I'm in favor like everybody else on this board (and 85% of the NFL) of upgrading at QB.

But there is nobody to do that with.

It's easy to say it should be done.

Which of these steps are you willing to take?

Poll coming.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:16 AM   #166
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Can someone show PACG the gif of Tyreek wide open for a touchdown throw most NAIA quarterbacks make?
Two potential TD's on this play.







Bonus Clip: The play-action where Alex's arm gets hit, was most likely a TD.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:24 AM   #167
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I don't put that last one on Smith. The first clip was bad though he's a pussy.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:26 AM   #168
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I don't put that last one on Smith. The first clip was bad though he's a pussy.
I never said it was on Alex, if his arm wasn't hit it was a TD.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:26 AM   #169
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F) Load up on picks for a QB next year
This is the best strategy considering the wealth of picks we have, the overall strength of the roster (we can afford to trade a 1st) and the depth and top-end talent that will be coming out in 2018.

Sam Darnold, USC
Josh Rosen, UCLA
Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Josh Allen, Wyoming
Mason Rudolph, OKState
Jake Browning, Washington

There's a lot to like there. You might have a Manning-Rivers-Roethlisberger situation out of that group.

And as an added bonus, ditching Smith's $20M cap hit in 2018 and replacing it with a rookie QB contract will allow you to spend more money on the re-ups that will be due players going into their second contracts. God knows what Peters is going to want.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:34 AM   #170
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Give me an argument other than "Alex wasn't the problem."

Since you can't, other than, "That's just emotion," I'll acknowledge your tapout.

Go drown in the ocean, beach bum
Did you change your tampon yet?

jjchiefsfan put a well argued explanation in this thread of ALL the reasons we lost, not just simplemindedly blaming only the QB like you:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=305286
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:43 AM   #171
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Mahomes the kid is a Russell Wilson type with a Colin Kaepernick arm.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:47 AM   #172
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I think we should let Dorsey pick the QB. CP has a very poor record on QB selection.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:53 AM   #173
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This is the best strategy considering the wealth of picks we have, the overall strength of the roster (we can afford to trade a 1st) and the depth and top-end talent that will be coming out in 2018.

Sam Darnold, USC Every QB from USC has largely sucked ass
Josh Rosen, UCLA Hasn't won anything.
Lamar Jackson, Louisville Can't throw
Josh Allen, Wyoming Small school. Other than Wentz and Romo never pan out.
Mason Rudolph, OKState spread QB. Meh arm
Jake Browning, Washington Got truly exposed against real defense

There's a lot to like there. You might have a Manning-Rivers-Roethlisberger situation out of that group.

And as an added bonus, ditching Smith's $20M cap hit in 2018 and replacing it with a rookie QB contract will allow you to spend more money on the re-ups that will be due players going into their second contracts. God knows what Peters is going to want.
It's not like that group is without questions too. And I haven't even watched those guys virtually at all. They can't interview those guys until they declare. IMO that's the biggest part. Yeah. You have to see some tools and mental acuity on film, but if they interview like Geno then piling resources to go get a guy you know nothing about is rough.

Then if you end up with a bunch of picks and can't get the move done for a QB - presuming your guy is there - then you are stuck with picks and spending those resources on lower impact players.

That strategy carries a lot of risk. If there is a guy you think you can make work, you do it. The age of sure fire QBs is over. I'd probably say Peyton Manning was the last one. Maybe Luck but he's floundering in the worst division in football (not necessarily all his fault). If there is a guy you can work with, get him.

You need a guy that can do the following:
1. Take the easy stuff.
2. Make a handful of difficult throws a game.

Other than Rodgers who is doing ridiculous things with a criminally bad supporting cast. That's all these guys are doing. They aren't throwing it into tight windows 45 times a game. They take the easy stuff, which Reid can scheme for, and then they have to press in some bad situations.

If a guy can make the correct reads and accurately navigate a few bad situations, he can be successful. We don't need an all world guy, just a competent one.
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Did you change your tampon yet?

jjchiefsfan put a well argued explanation in this thread of ALL the reasons we lost, not just simplemindedly blaming only the QB like you:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=305286
He's became a terrible football poster since 13' when he bitched about trading Arenas and threw a tantrum when we didn't draft that piece of shit Geno Smith.
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Mahomes the kid is a Russell Wilson type with a Colin Kaepernick arm.
Not even close.
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He's became a terrible football poster since 13' when he bitched about trading Arenas and threw a tantrum when we didn't draft that piece of shit Geno Smith.
What specifically do you disagree with?
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Not even close.
We'll see people didn't think said player would succeed either.
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Mahomes the kid is a Russell Wilson type with a Colin Kaepernick arm.
You realize that pretty much makes him John Elway, right?

May want to tap the brakes a bit there, hoss.
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Someone compared Mahomes to Culpepper last week. I could see that
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Someone compared Mahomes to Culpepper last week. I could see that
Culpepper's like Ben in that he's an impossible comparison to make unless you're also built like a linebacker.

Culpepper would just stand there with fur flying around him, look over the line, bounce a blitzer off him and wing it downfield. Mahomes won't be able to do that.

Eh, still pretty bummed that Falk and Rudolph stayed. Not even because I really wanted either of them but because it would've made the class much deeper. Allen would have as well. Get Falk, Rudolph and Allen in there and there would have been at least a team or two that would've fallen in love with them and perhaps pushed another guy down.

In this class I really only see Kizer, Trubisky and Mahomes as potential franchise guys with Watson just being way too raw for my tastes (though he may fit with what Andy likes due to his mobility).

The class falls to absolute shit after those 3 (with an asterisk at 4; shit for many, might fit for some). That's going to make the odds of a reasonable trade-up pretty long. Those top 3 could all easily be gone by 10 and I'm not inclined to pay a premium to move up to 20 for Watson.

So just restructure Foles and come to the table ready to move next year.
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