BREAKING: Nick Foles starting against Jags

[carcosa]

According to Andy Reid's press conference, still ongoing:

https://www.facebook.com/KansasCityC...4631951288373/

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

I don't think people actually hate Smith, he's just boring to watch. I don't hate the guy nor do I wish injury on him. I just sit there Sunday watching the same thing over and over. Nothing worse when it's 3rd and 9 he throws 5 yards short. It's been years since we've had a QB that was exciting.

Until Reid retires, I'd suggest you find a new team to root for then. It's not Smith. It's the system. And the system wins games, which subsequently puts you in a position for post season success. Go watch Smith in college under Urban Meyer's spread offense. He threw the ball downfield plenty.

If the Chiefs, Smith and Reid's offense is so boring, then maybe you would like a Chip Kelly 49ers team. I hear he's got an exciting offensive game plan.

[ARROW2]

A real QB would make our receiving corps household names.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Until Reid retires, I'd suggest you find a new team to root for then. It's not Smith. It's the system. And the system wins games, which subsequently puts you in a position for post season success. Go watch Smith in college under Urban Meyer's spread offense. He threw the ball downfield plenty.

If the Chiefs, Smith and Reid's offense is so boring, then maybe you would like a Chip Kelly 49ers team. I hear he's got an exciting offensive game plan.

Didn't Smith's downfield passing ability decrease significantly after he injured his shoulder with the 49ers? I've heard/read that a few times from 49er fans.

[ARROW2]

Can't wait for Sunday and hear the excuses for BIG STICK NICK getting his shit off.

[MTG#10]

Im not sold on Foles at all. There has to be a reason he couldnt win a starting job anywhere else and agreed to come here to be Smith's backup. This game will probably be closer than everyone thinks.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Personally I don't give a rat's ass how we win in the post season as long as we keep winning until there are no more games to be won.

I don't care how we win either. I just don't know that over conservative play will work 4 games in a row against elite playoff qbs.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Alex Smith had more games end of last year where he was better attacking the field. The maddening part about him is he goes in spurts where he's cool with it, then spurts where he's cool with punting.

Alex's first few games was frustrating as hell. Like so many games in his kc career, he waited until he's down two scores to make a move. I've often said when Smith is down two scores, he's actually a decently effective downfield qb. So the question is, can Alex string together a few reasonably aggressive games together in the playoffs. If big Ben or Brady Force a shootout, how quickly will Alex adapt to be aggressive. That's what makes me nervous.

Because while you say he was aggressive for two games, he has a lot of games on a chiefs uniform where he was not. And the overall Aya and air yards support that. Foles didn't prove he's a starter last week and he won't this week. But he was utilizing the receiving talent in ways Alex Smith doesn't, but should. My hope is that Foles does this again and Alex gets a good look. Because if Alex can turn a more aggressive switch on more consistently, this team will be hard to beat. If he approaches games the way he did San Diego, Pittsburgh, and last year in New England where we manage first and wait til the last minute to attack, we aren't going anywhere I'm the playoffs.

When has Smith had any reliant deep field threat during his time in KC? Maclin last year? Conley couldn't catch shit until this season. Wilson alligator armed every pass in front of him past ten yards.

Hill has been a huge boon to this offense this season and looks to have motivated the rest of the receiving corps to be more aggressive running routes and actually trying to catch a deep ball.

The longer routes were somewhat dependent upon the guys running those routes and the Chiefs really didn't have shit in that regard until last season and Smith wasn't afraid of putting air under the ball throwing it to Maclin.

Wilson killed the trust by giving up on every deep ball thrown his way. Conley had hands of stone last season.

It's hard to throw it deep when you don't have anyone who will catch it.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And all of you idiots must be illiterate.

Read the ****ing article. It addresses exactly the point Anyong was trying to make.

That author's position is that for a safety to crowd the box, he essentially has to be within 10 yardsish of the LOS or be cheating that way at the snap. You don't have to throw it 40 yards downfield to keep him honest; a simple 20 yarder will accomplish that same thing.

That's why he classifies passes in the 20 yard range as deep passes - precisely because they do exactly what you militantly ignorant mouth-breathers are arguing for. A safety cannot crowd the box if he has to worry about as much as Kelce getting in behind him 18 yards downfield for a catch and run.

And again, Foles actually threw MORE passes near the line of scrimmage than Smith did in that game. You want to talk about plays that get safeties cheating up; an increased really short passes will absolutely do that. All Anyong is saying is read the goddamn article before you sit here saying that Foles is going to be backing safeties off more than Smith - there's a solid argument to be made that he actually won't be based on his small sample size here.

The guy's buying you books and you idiots are eating the pages and then patting each other other the back. Militantly ignorant isn't a good look.

Ty. I didn't want to respond when the ****ing article explains and articulated the exact point, but instead people want to not read it and misconstrue my post.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by ARROW2

I don't care what kind of analysis gets posted or stats get posted, THE EYES say otherwise and see a significant difference when BIG STICK NICK is in.

Rain is magic from the sky. My eyes tell me.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't care how we win either. I just don't know that over conservative play will work 4 games in a row against elite playoff qbs.

I assume you mean elite defenses. Because an elite QB is our defense's problem. Alex just needs to slay the opposing D.

We didn't lose to the Colts in the playoffs because Alex couldn't fling the ball....

[threebag]

Damn, how many (touchdowns) did Albert Wison short arm that would have been? He aggravated me so much as a receiver i was ready for him to go. I was stoked when i thought we would have Rod Streeter instead of Albert Wilson.

[threebag]

So stoked i picked Rod Streeter as my Adopt-A-CHIEF. i got ****ed

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Don't you have some tramp you have to go bang?

In about 45 minutes actually. Thanks for reminding me. Got to jump in the shower.

[Frosty]

I don't really have a horse in this race because I hope Foles and Smith do well and I just want wins, but the "Foles threw more short passes than Smith" thing is kind of dishonest. He did but it was because the Chiefs had run out of RBs in the 4th quarter and Reid went to the sideways passes in lieu of running plays. They even mention that in the article.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by rico

Didn't Smith's downfield passing ability decrease significantly after he injured his shoulder with the 49ers? I've heard/read that a few times from 49er fans.

That and the doctors **** up which left a wire in his shoulder that was cutting through the bone as he continued to throw throughout the season. I imagine that having a wire saw through your bone would have some degree of impact on your ability and desire to hurl the ball 50 yards every pass play.