Is it time to start Foles over Smith?

[Deberg_1990]

Pathetic.

He's played poorly today


Thoughts?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Maybe so, but this is the exact type of comment you and others would dismiss and label as an excuse, if talking about Smith.

I would make the same excuse for Smith on that team. The Rams sucked.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ASS11

Alex's days are numbered. Get used to it. All the hot-air posts you can spew like this one won't change that fact.

Everyone's days are numbered, get used to it.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

Really, because I remember Alex Smith sucking so bad his first several years in the league that they were about to run him out of town before Harbaugh showed up. I don't remember him having a record breaking season during any of those years, either.

Alex got better. And it didn't hurt that he got into a system that was better for his talents and had a coach who knew how to use him.

Translate that as an excuse about Nick Foles if you want, but you'd be an idiot.

You are blowing too many details together here, and it's diluting the simple truth.

Point a finger at the HC, OL, WRs, etc. for the QB sucking = excuse.

That's the rule. Oh, wait. now there are extenuating circumstances to analyze?

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

That "50 yard bomb" that foles threw, literraly sat in the air that seemed like forever, Hill had to stop, run back a few yards, sit there, and out-jump the DB for it....

If alex did that, ppl would be murdering him verbally because he "under threw" the ball. Regardless, what many in this thread may try to lead you to believe Alex doesnt under-throw many balls, and when he does, its not from a lack of arm, Foles literraly put everything he had into that throw, and that was the result...

Again, I am all for legit discussion about topics like this thread is about, but bottom-line is, many people in certain threads, like this one, are unable to have a serious, semi-serious, or basic discussion about the topic because they are so emotionally invested into hating alex-smith, that the same arguments they use for why "alex is bad", they use the same arguments as "excuses" for other quarterbacks not named Alex smith... A select few posters here are hypocritical, to the EXTREME, and they either know it, and are trolling, or are legit, lost in reality, because of some built up-emotional hatred for one football player.

Alex wouldn't have the balls to throw it in the first place.

[Beef Supreme]

The 50 yard bomb to Hill was not a good throw. Keep hanging on to that instead of looking at the rest of the game where he played pretty lights out coming off the bench.

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Alex wouldn't have the balls to throw it in the first place.

Another false statement.. You and I both know, hes thrown bombs many times. He just doesnt throw them as often as youd like.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Alex wouldn't have the balls to throw it in the first place.

I was just thinking this. Here is the Foles bomb. Huge amount of pressure, which affected the throw. But Alex would have been running. That is a 50-yard throw. Alex doesn't throw the ball 50 yards under that kind of pressure.

[Simply Red]

I've never seen a board more pissed off after a win. We're truly a dynamic forum. Probably the best out of all NFL teams. It's like Morton Downey met the founder of the National Enquirer and posts their thoughts through a drunken Andy Dick's fingers.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

The 50 yard bomb to Hill was not a good throw. Keep hanging on to that instead of looking at the rest of the game where he played pretty lights out coming off the bench.

The 20 yarder to Conley wasn't good. The 5 yarder to Harris wasn't good. The flat out whiff to West wasn't good. He was behind on a couple of other crossing routes though I don't recall where he was going with those.

You don't have to oversell his performance; he played well in a tough spot. That said, he's a 5 year veteran that's been in this system before and was playing quite possibly the worst secondary in football. In so doing, he was solid, but most assuredly not 'lights out'.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ASS11

I was just thinking this. Here is the Foles bomb. Huge amount of pressure, which affected the throw. But Alex would have been running. That is a 50-yard throw. Alex doesn't throw the ball 50 yards under that kind of pressure.

Smith would have gone fetal the second the guy smoking Schwartz got on the same yard line.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

I've never seen a board more pissed off after a win. We're truly a dynamic forum.

Seen it before on here, but does it really seem like people are pissed off this week?

Just looks like some are stretching what they can in desperation of a QB controversy. Totally expected.

Think everyone's thrilled this week to be 5-2.

[bsroyals54]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

That "50 yard bomb" that foles threw, literraly sat in the air that seemed like forever, Hill had to stop, run back a few yards, sit there, and out-jump the DB for it....If alex did that, ppl would be murdering him verbally because he "under threw" the ball. Regardless, what many in this thread may try to lead you to believe Alex doesnt under-throw many balls, and when he does, its not from a lack of arm, Foles literraly put everything he had into that throw, and that was the result...

Actually it turned out to be good that it was under thrown because the DB was running side by side of Hill, and wasn't looking at the ball. Hill stopped and the DB kept running, turned out to be a "good" throw , by the way its not hard to underthrow the fastest guy in the NFL. Especially on your first rep back from being a backup. DID YOU SEE HOW LONG THAT THROW WAS? IF IT WAS NOT UNDERTHROWN IT WOULD OF BEEN IN THE AIR FOR LIKE 70 YARDS LOL!

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

That "50 yard bomb" that foles threw, literraly sat in the air that seemed like forever, Hill had to stop, run back a few yards, sit there, and out-jump the DB for it....

If alex did that, ppl would be murdering him verbally because he "under threw" the ball. Regardless, what many in this thread may try to lead you to believe Alex doesnt under-throw many balls, and when he does, its not from a lack of arm, Foles literraly put everything he had into that throw, and that was the result...

Again, I am all for legit discussion about topics like this thread is about, but bottom-line is, many people in certain threads, like this one, are unable to have a serious, semi-serious, or basic discussion about the topic because they are so emotionally invested into hating alex-smith, that the same arguments they use for why "alex is bad", they use the same arguments as "excuses" for other quarterbacks not named Alex smith... A select few posters here are hypocritical, to the EXTREME, and they either know it, and are trolling, or are legit, lost in reality, because of some built up-emotional hatred for one football player.

That deep ball by Foles was NOT a good pass.... BUT at least he had the balls to throw it up and let his talented team mate go make a play.
How many perfect passes was Calvin Johnson catching from Matthew Stafford? Peyton Manning sure threw some ducks downfield.

The whole point is... defenses DO NOT respect Alex Smiths lack of downfield presence, and therefor game planning against him should be much easier. While Foles' pass was ugly, it immediately changed the reputation of this Chiefs offense, and opened up those little bubble screens that Andy Reid LOVES to call.

To me, the successful teams in the NFL seem to be the least predictable ones. Alex Smith is predictable.

For the past few years all we have heard from Alex Smith fans is "he needs all star receivers", "he needs a great oline", "he needs a great defense".
I think good QB's are going to make those players around him better, they are the leader of the team.

Can you imagine Alex Smith in a huddle trying to motivate someone to play better, when he is too scared to take a chance throwing a lower percentage pass play? Our Receivers looked like they actually had FUN yesterday.

< This Chiefs fan is actually excited about the future for once. It could all blow up in our face, and Foles could be an absolute bust... but at least we will know and can move on. We KNOW what Alex Smith is, just like we knew what Matt Cassel was. Some people will keep making excuses, while others will want and expect to be more competitive.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You don't have to oversell his performance; he played well in a tough spot. That said, he's a 5 year veteran that's been in this system before and was playing quite possibly the worst secondary in football. In so doing, he was solid, but most assuredly not 'lights out'.

But up until yesterday, pointing out that Smith wasn't lighting up bad Saints' or Jets' defenses was "trolling".

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The 20 yarder to Conley wasn't good. The 5 yarder to Harris wasn't good. The flat out whiff to West wasn't good. He was behind on a couple of other crossing routes though I don't recall where he was going with those.

You don't have to oversell his performance; he played well in a tough spot. That said, he's a 5 year veteran that's been in this system before and was playing quite possibly the worst secondary in football. In so doing, he was solid, but most assuredly not 'lights out'.

He played well in a tough spot. Better than Alex, and Alex was actually having a pretty good game. It wasn't perfect. But it sure looked lights out compared to what we usually get to watch on Sundays. You don't have to undersell his performance.