Chiefs Is it time to start Foles over Smith? - Page 70

Deberg_1990 · 09-11-2016, 12:32 PM

Pathetic.

He's played poorly today

Thoughts?

**Baby Lee** · 10-31-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

a guy that couldn't keep his job over Case Keenum

Not sure that's a fair characterization. Seems more Foles wanted to be the guy, with at least an opportunity a commitment from the franchise, and Keenum was willing to be the temporary placeholder for the Goff inevitability.

**Baby Lee** · 10-31-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Great to see @Chiefs RB @spenceware11 celebrating a victory with his family after leaving today's game with a concussion. #chiefskingdom pic.twitter.com/DT93RZ1f1S
— FOX Sports: PROcast (@PROcast) October 30, 2016

@:11 - the way he says 'grey teem wihhh' Dude made the most of his time in Baton Rouge.

That's what you call Louisiana Regional 'talk to toddler like big boy/girl' Patois.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-31-2016, 11:56 AM

Glad Andy squashed that bug before it possibly reached the headlines as a 'controversy'...

Alex is going to step back in and run the offense successfully as we gear up for the long run..

For the Foles lovers, take some solace in the fact that his performance yesterday at least puts some pressure on Smith to continue to push the ball down field and play well..

Chiefspants · 10-31-2016, 12:04 PM

In the end, I want the Chiefs to win no matter who the quarterback is.

I feel Alex falls into a habit of playing too conservatively and this is problematic in today's NFL. I feel this habit is exacerbated by Reid's style of play.

Case in point: There was absolutely no reason for us to take a 6 minute drive against New England when we were down 14. We had to have a sense of urgency. Reid and Andy's unwillingness to take shots has repeatedly cost them in big games (see Reid's past playoff performances for reference). This tendency by both Alex & Andy is why I worry that we've reached our ceiling in the playoffs. I know some like to point to Denver as being an example of how this style can succeed, but Sutton has not shown that he's willing to engage in the aggressive style of play that Phillips is, though our defense is more than capable.

It was refreshing to see a Chiefs quarterback be willing to take real shots down the field. Alex is capable of the same thing (see Week 1) and hopefully Foles' performance lights a fire under him to be more aggressive downfield.

Aspengc8 · 10-31-2016, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Reid's WCO doesn't send WRs on go routes that frequently. It's a horizontal offense.

If Smith were ignoring progressions, Reid would've benched him. He doesn't like guys dicking with his offense. He loves Smith precisely because he stays within the scheme.

Ignore, no. Miss progressions, yes. The read's he was missing earlier in the year, he is throwing now. 1v1 press with no safety help, he is throwing and trusting the receiver to make a play. The horizontal concepts that everyone on this board hates, he is throwing the vertical that levels off of it. Andy loves hi/lo reads and when alex has the protection to go through the progressions, good things happen. Those pick plays for Kelce where also killer yesterday.

Sandy Vagina · 10-31-2016, 12:25 PM

One thing I don't get. To a fault, Alex had been well versed in running to the sideline after evading pressure, and chucking the ball out of bounds. Live another day, piss off the fans for not trying to keep eyes downfield and zip it to some mythical target working back towards him.

Now, he's bothering to pick up a couple of yards, and sliding late inviting hits.

For such a smart guy, doesn't seem so smart, at times.

DJ's left nut · 10-31-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

One thing I don't get. To a fault, Alex had been well versed in running to the sideline after evading pressure, and chucking the ball out of bounds. Live another day, piss off the fans for not trying to keep eyes downfield and zip it to some mythical target working back towards him.

Now, he's bothering to pick up a couple of yards, and sliding late inviting hits.

For such a smart guy, doesn't seem so smart, at times.

Smith's mobility has declined this year. He's now a guy that can buy time in the pocket and maybe convert a 3rd down if things align right for him. He's not a guy that should be running a read option anymore, IMO.

He's not a statue but I think it's hard to say that he's the same guy who's legs were an obvious asset last season. It may be because teams are paying more attention to the threat his legs presented last year or it may just be age. In either event, they need to stop exposing him quite as much.

And yes, he needs to get smarter about sliding late. I think he has beef on 2 plays over the last 2 weeks but the other hits were kinda his fault.

Hammock Parties · 10-31-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Well, the chiefs trainer just said they don't feel smith has a concussion at all so I'm guessing he'll play this week

total ****ing bullshit

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-31-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Smith's mobility has declined this year. He's now a guy that can buy time in the pocket and maybe convert a 3rd down if things align right for him. He's not a guy that should be running a read option anymore, IMO.

He's not a statue but I think it's hard to say that he's the same guy who's legs were an obvious asset last season. It may be because teams are paying more attention to the threat his legs presented last year or it may just be age. In either event, they need to stop exposing him quite as much.

And yes, he needs to get smarter about sliding late. I think he has beef on 2 plays over the last 2 weeks but the other hits were kinda his fault.

I've noticed Pete Carroll has asked the same of Russell Wilson. Now that both players have reliable weapons, it's time to use build trust in the pocket. If we make a playoff run, then run for it by all means if necessary

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-31-2016, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

total ****ing bullshit

Are you a doctor? You said Smith had 3 conclusions in his career as of yesterday...

Hammock Parties · 10-31-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Are you a doctor? You said Smith had 3 conclusions in his career as of yesterday...

If the Chiefs throw Smith back out there in harm's way...I'll be looking forward to it.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-31-2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

If the Chiefs throw Smith back out there in harm's way...I'll be looking forward to it.

Bannable offense. This stuff is psychopath type of comments

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-31-2016, 12:46 PM

Let's be honest most of us were expecting Alex to get knocked out of games because of his build and playing style. He'll treated more like a RB by the opposition because of this.

"Live by the sword, die by the sword."

Hammock Parties · 10-31-2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

"Live by the sword, die by the sword."

eDave · 10-31-2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

If the Chiefs throw Smith back out there in harm's way...I'll be looking forward to it.

Dude.

09-11-2016, 12:32 PM
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10-31-2016, 12:04 PM	#1039
Chiefspants World's Best Boss Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bronco Country Casino cash: $3584654	In the end, I want the Chiefs to win no matter who the quarterback is. I feel Alex falls into a habit of playing too conservatively and this is problematic in today's NFL. I feel this habit is exacerbated by Reid's style of play. Case in point: There was absolutely no reason for us to take a 6 minute drive against New England when we were down 14. We had to have a sense of urgency. Reid and Andy's unwillingness to take shots has repeatedly cost them in big games (see Reid's past playoff performances for reference). This tendency by both Alex & Andy is why I worry that we've reached our ceiling in the playoffs. I know some like to point to Denver as being an example of how this style can succeed, but Sutton has not shown that he's willing to engage in the aggressive style of play that Phillips is, though our defense is more than capable. It was refreshing to see a Chiefs quarterback be willing to take real shots down the field. Alex is capable of the same thing (see Week 1) and hopefully Foles' performance lights a fire under him to be more aggressive downfield.
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Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2757187	Let's be honest most of us were expecting Alex to get knocked out of games because of his build and playing style. He'll treated more like a RB by the opposition because of this. "Live by the sword, die by the sword." __________________
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