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Old 10-16-2016, 05:05 PM  
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Maybe Dee Ford isn't a bust?
7.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles and 2 forced holding calls in 12 starts since Houston got hurt. Not bad #'s from a complimentary rusher, though he does need to be more consistent throughout the game.

I'd still take Carr even after today, but I think the bust label might be too strong for the kid at this point.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:33 AM   #76
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With a single high look, that's going to be really tough to cover that much ground.

I don't think he'd have made it. He always seems to be a half-second late. You can't be everywhere at once but that's something he needs to work on to take his game to the next level.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:39 AM   #77
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With a single high look, that's going to be really tough to cover that much ground.
I don't think he can get there to make the pick, but I don't think it goes for a TD.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:41 AM   #78
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To complete that ball, it had to come out at the 11 second mark but there was already pressure. TBH, the pressure killed the play and thats a terrible play by carr.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:44 AM   #79
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In regards to Ford though, the pace he's on and what he's doing in very nice.

No, he's not going to be Houston I don't think. He's not going to just be an all around bad ass. But paired with Houston on the weak side, where he's probably not getting doubled much and is 1 on 1 with a LT?

Yeah, I don't see why he couldn't be a 7, 8 sack per year guy, depending on the rest of the D. Thats pretty nice.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:44 AM   #80
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Considering Hali's age and Houston's injury drafting Dee Ford has turned out to be a pretty good move.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:12 PM   #81
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He's on pace for 11 sacks and his run defense looks far better than last year. Wouldn't call that a disappointment right now.
I mean he hasn't consistently gotten to the QB and hasn't been good in the run game but I think he is improving in that regard this season just from the eye test. He still has some time but needs to build off this and harass Brees this weekend.
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Old 10-18-2016, 01:02 PM   #82
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Look, we all know Ford is a bust. What this thread presupposes is...
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:27 PM   #83
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He's on pace for 11 sacks and his run defense looks far better than last year. Wouldn't call that a disappointment right now.
Nope. He didn't lead the NFL in sacks his first year, so he's a CP bust. He isn't on pace for the all-time sack record this year, so he should probably be cut in the off season to make roster space for a real pass rusher.

This place has gotten beyond ridiculous.
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:34 PM   #84
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if he would put forth the effort on Q1-3 like he does for 2 or 3 plays in the Q4, we would all love him
Or if people would pay attention when he plays well but doesn't actually finish the play.

He's not lollygagging in Q1-3, he's just not always finishing the play off and people are ignoring him when he just does his job. I read the post-game reactions here and am oftentimes left to wonder if we're just watching a different game. People will absolutely wreck Ford and when I watched I saw a guy that played fine. Not amazing, but solid, yeoman's work from a guy that's a solid but unspectacular player.

Ford's been fine this year, even when people were excoriating him. He's not amazing and not a guy I'd be looking to build around. I wouldn't even guarantee him a roster spot past his rookie deal. But the blame he's taken 'round here has been absurd.
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Opposite a healthy and normal houston, Ford has show this year to be about what they expected/wanted him to be.

If Houston is back and playing well, a rotation of ford and hali will be nice
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Or if people would pay attention when he plays well but doesn't actually finish the play.

He's not lollygagging in Q1-3, he's just not always finishing the play off and people are ignoring him when he just does his job. I read the post-game reactions here and am oftentimes left to wonder if we're just watching a different game. People will absolutely wreck Ford and when I watched I saw a guy that played fine. Not amazing, but solid, yeoman's work from a guy that's a solid but unspectacular player.

Ford's been fine this year, even when people were excoriating him. He's not amazing and not a guy I'd be looking to build around. I wouldn't even guarantee him a roster spot past his rookie deal. But the blame he's taken 'round here has been absurd.
I watch Ford at times and he does get to the QB but it's just too late at times. I'm a lot happier with him this year that's for sure. Now let's see him build from here. Mother****er sure has the clutch gene at times with his timely sacks, turnovers forced and play against SD last season on the last play against Woodhead.
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Opposite a healthy and normal houston, Ford has show this year to be about what they expected/wanted him to be.

If Houston is back and playing well, a rotation of ford and hali will be nice

Ford is going to have to play since Hali can barely play a half.
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Or if people would pay attention when he plays well but doesn't actually finish the play.

He's not lollygagging in Q1-3, he's just not always finishing the play off and people are ignoring him when he just does his job. I read the post-game reactions here and am oftentimes left to wonder if we're just watching a different game. People will absolutely wreck Ford and when I watched I saw a guy that played fine. Not amazing, but solid, yeoman's work from a guy that's a solid but unspectacular player.

Ford's been fine this year, even when people were excoriating him. He's not amazing and not a guy I'd be looking to build around. I wouldn't even guarantee him a roster spot past his rookie deal. But the blame he's taken 'round here has been absurd.
Let's be honest here.

Ford has only made any real impact against 3rd string tackles as a pass rusher.

He's improved against the run, and has had a couple of passes defensed, but he has not developed as a pass rusher and is not generating any kind of consistent pressure, and as you stated, is not finishing when he does.

That simply is not good enough.
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Let's be honest here.

Ford has only made any real impact against 3rd string tackles as a pass rusher.

He's improved against the run, and has had a couple of passes defensed, but he has not developed as a pass rusher and is not generating any kind of consistent pressure, and as you stated, is not finishing when he does.

That simply is not good enough.
I think you need to watch Sunday's game again
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