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Old 10-17-2015, 11:48 AM  
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Qb from Memphis, on ABC right now against Ole miss.

He's endorsed by Sacofbats so, take caution, but I'm intrigued
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:04 PM   #1036
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Yep, there's some great players who were pretty dumb, not sure if that's the case for QBs.
Do you see Brett Favre or John Elway conducting civil engineering courses?

Yeah, me neither.
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:06 PM   #1037
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Terry Bradshaw is pleased to hear you say so. Not that the offense he ran was anywhere near as complex as today's pro O.
Yep, the complexity of the offense has changed for sure. That said, most coaches tend to stay within a particular comfort zone, running variations on a theme.
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:08 PM   #1038
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If you don't think it's important, or translates, for QB's, you're a fool.

Like I said, there are exceptions to every rule, but it's a pretty good indicator of what to expect (mentally) from a QB. Marino/McNabb/Kelly are examples of some exceptions, but like I pointed out, they came into the league when the learning curve wasn't as much of an obstacle. Lynch has a lot more to learn (and adjust to) than those guys ever did, so the mental part is all the more concerning. There aren't many recent examples of exceptions, so I think the evidence backs that up.

I saw an interview with Lynch, thought he sounded like an idiot, then looked up his Wonderlic and saw he got an 18. That's not a coincidence.

So yea, if you think how smart a QB is matters, then there is a correlation.
Is Cam Newton's score of 21 significantly higher? I'd wager his emotional maturity score is significantly lower than Lynch's.
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Is Cam Newton's score of 21 significantly higher? I'd wager his emotional maturity score is significantly lower than Lynch's.
I would argue his physical skills are mile ahead, and coming out of the SEC to win championship would be pretty hard for you to compare Lynch to.....
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I would argue his physical skills are mile ahead, and coming out of the SEC to win championship would be pretty hard for you to compare Lynch to.....
You're saying his low score is overcome by his physical skills?
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:16 PM   #1041
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So obviously you think it's important but otherwise, is there any proof that a high score is more indicative of a successful career in the NFL?
There is some history that says the score is at least strongly correlated:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...erbacks-041515
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:21 PM   #1042
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Alex Smith = 40.

The prosecution rests, your honor.
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Alex Smith = 40.

The prosecution rests, your honor.
If you don't see how that translates, you're a ****ing moron.
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You're saying his low score is overcome by his physical skills?
That's what he's saying, and he's right. Take Cam's elite mobility away, and he would fail as a pocket passer.
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If you don't see how that translates, you're a ****ing moron.
It doesn't translate, just as I said. By that reckoning, Alex Smith should be the most awesome QB that ever picked up a goddamned football, not a walking advertisement for Dramamine.
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It doesn't translate, just as I said. By that reckoning, Alex Smith should be the most awesome QB that ever picked up a goddamned football, not a walking advertisement for Dramamine.
You're completely missing the point.

Alex Smith is a very intelligent QB.

It's not the be all end all in evaluating a QB, but it does measure intelligence, and that's a very important "box" to check.

You might think in your little delusional world that Alex Smith is a failure and a terrible QB, but he's not. He's been as successful as he has, and salvaged his career due to his intelligence (and intangibles).
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The second part is a huge red flag that could be Lynch's downfall as it appears the mental aspect could be an enormous obstacle for him. Even if he's a ****ing choir boy, it won't matter, if that's the case. Sitting and learning doesn't guarantee that will ever change either, though it could.
Which is why he would have been a great fit for us to sit him 2 or 3 years and let him learn.

Kubiak has a good system that worked very well for Schaub in Houston and then Flacco in Baltimore. Lynch has the physical abilities and athleticism be a top 10 QB, he just needs to learn the game like every other spread QB.

It sucks but he could be very good in that system. Hopefully Denver starts him week 1 and ruins him.
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You're completely missing the point.

Alex Smith is a very intelligent QB.

It's not the be all end all in evaluating a QB, but it does measure intelligence, and that's a very important "box" to check.

You might think in your little delusional world that Alex Smith is a failure and a terrible QB, but he's not. He's been as successful as he has, and salvaged his career due to his intelligence (and intangibles).
He's been successful due to his intelligence and legs. He's not a failure, but he's hardly championship-winning material unless the entire roster, every position, is in prime health all the way to the end.
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He's been successful due to his intelligence and legs. He's not a failure, but he's hardly championship-winning material unless the entire roster, every position, is in prime health all the way to the end.
this is true for all QB's, not just Alex
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this is true for all QB's, not just Alex
Which part?
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