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Old 04-29-2016, 10:20 PM  
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Were Jones and Russel drafted to eventually replace Poe and Berry?
Gotta wonder...I know most probably don't want to hear it, though.

Both are probably wanting huge paydays as they are probably the premier players at their respective positions and KC doesn't have tons of cap space next year.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:42 PM   #61
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:29 AM   #62
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:40 AM   #63
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:45 AM   #64
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I'm surprised all the talk is about Jaye Howard and not Allen Bailey. Howard at his contract is an absolute steal. I like Howard more than I like Bailey yet Bailey is signed for longer and more $'s. Bailey's cap hit will balloon to $8M by 2018. Jones will give KC more leverage to negotiate better contracts with Howard and to renegotiate Bailey's $8M hit in 2018.

And no, Jones isn't here to take Poe's job away. He's here to take away snaps from Poe so he's not on the field all the ****ing time. It gives the Chiefs 2 years to groom Jones through rotational work for a few years before making decisions on Howard/Bailey.

I'm pretty sure they're not going to give a guy like Jones who has questions about effort the insane workload Poe gets.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:56 AM   #65
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:05 AM   #66
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I haven't read or listened to Dorsey or Reid about how they plan to use Jones but to me he looks more like a 5 tech then a NT to me.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:10 AM   #67
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I haven't read or listened to Dorsey or Reid about how they plan to use Jones but to me he looks more like a 5 tech then a NT to me.
He looks like a 5 tech that can play all across the line including NT. Poe is a NT who can play all across the line including 5 tech.

You're absolutely right. He will play Devito's role who played a lot of NT in his career.

And he'll be a terrific option in nickel.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:24 AM   #68
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:40 AM   #69
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I haven't read or listened to Dorsey or Reid about how they plan to use Jones but to me he looks more like a 5 tech then a NT to me.
Howard is better at NT anyway

Poe leaves
Howard slides over to NT
Jones takes over RDE

possible scenario anyway
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:48 AM   #70
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Howard is better at NT anyway

Poe leaves
Howard slides over to NT
Jones takes over RDE

possible scenario anyway
Our DEs are good but they're still not great pass rushers. If Jones can be a pass rushing force from the 5 tech this D will become even better then it was last year.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:53 AM   #71
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Our DEs are good but they're still not great pass rushers. If Jones can be a pass rushing force from the 5 tech this D will become even better then it was last year.
Which is not the question. It's not about whether Chris Jones is a bad pick, so stop defending him.

The question is whether he is a replacement pick.

I don't see how anyone can honestly say he's not an insurance policy at the very least.
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Which is not the question. It's not about whether Chris Jones is a bad pick, so stop defending him.

The question is whether he is a replacement pick.

I don't see how anyone can honestly say he's not an insurance policy at the very least.
WTF are you talking about? There's no need to defend Jones and sure he may be insurance incase we can't sign Poe but he's not the same type player. He's more of a DE in our scheme. I'm not concerned as much about losing Poe and a theory of an insurance pick as much as I'm excited that we have a DE who can really rush the passer. Our D front just got better.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:11 AM   #73
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Poe, yes.
I think that's part of the reason why they use him so much. Not worried about long term wear and tear.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:25 AM   #74
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WTF are you talking about? There's no need to defend Jones and sure he may be insurance incase we can't sign Poe but he's not the same type player. He's more of a DE in our scheme. I'm not concerned as much about losing Poe and a theory of an insurance pick as much as I'm excited that we have a DE who can really rush the passer. Our D front just got better.
So tied up in you homerism that you can't understand the purpose of this thread.

Yes, Chris Jones is a replacement pick. Period.

when Poe was hurt, howard took over the NT and was a stud. If Poe leaves Howard will move over then again leaving a spot at RDE open.

Chris Jones is a RDE in a 3-4 scheme.


Replacement


He might be a good,bad or mediocre replacement but he's a replacement pick. Just like Dorsey has done every year he's been in KC.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:38 AM   #75
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I'm gonna with 'no'. I think they just take the top guy on their board at the time.
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