Trading Down

[RunKC]

It looks like there's a very good chance we're stuck in the rift of the first Rd when all the premier talent is gone.

IMO the draft could go a lot like this:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/24/n...er-king-trades

IMO Lynch goes way higher and Kelly/Billings is off the board, but in this situation it looks like trading down is the best option.
Of the prospects left on the board (again I think Kelly/Billings are gone), the best prospect available appears to be Josh Garnett. I think if we stayed at 28 he's the guy (Vonn Bell is appealing here as well).

In this situation, do you trade down to the mid 30's if you can get a 4th Rd pick?

[Urc Burry]

AP had the patriots as a potential trade down partner. They would give up their 2 2nds for our #28. So we would have 3 consecutive picks in the 2nd. I honestly think I'd rather stay at #28. There is a pretty sizable drop off in talent there

[kccrow]

I'm kind of leaning more towards a trade down from round 2 than from round 1. If a guy is there at the bottom of round 2, maybe a guy like Derrick Henry, I could see a team like Dallas coming up and grabbing him. A drop and swap, such as 59 and 126 for 67 and 101 plus a 2017 5th or something, would be good for the Chiefs. They'd have top picks in round 3 and 4 instead of late picks in 2 and 4, giving them that 3 in 100 type of draft scenario which I think works out well with the depth of this draft.

Give me this kind of draft:
1-028 - Vernon Butler, DT
3-067 - Kalan Reed, CB
4-101 - Leonte Carroo, WR

I could live with that.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm kind of leaning more towards a trade down from round 2 than from round 1. If a guy is there at the bottom of round 2, maybe a guy like Derrick Henry, I could see a team like Dallas coming up and grabbing him. A drop and swap, such as 59 and 126 for 67 and 101 plus a 2017 5th or something, would be good for the Chiefs. They'd have top picks in round 3 and 4 instead of late picks in 2 and 4, giving them that 3 in 100 type of draft scenario which I think works out well with the depth of this draft.

Give me this kind of draft:
1-028 - Vernon Butler, DT
3-067 - Kalan Reed, CB
4-101 - Leonte Carroo, WR

I could live with that.

Sheesh, that would be outstanding. Caroo is a 2nd round talent. It depends how comfortable teams are with his off field issues. All three of these guys likely contribute from day one.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by O.city

See, I kinda like treadwell. But after the bowe experiment I'm hesitant although treadwell is probably quucker.

I feel the same way. I also agree that Karl Joseph is an attractive pick here, and wouldn't mind trading back either. All are good options.

BTW I think this was the best mock I've seen yet.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by RunKC

From TJ Carpenter

The more I listen to John Dorsey's comments from last week, the more I think it's a real possibility the Chiefs trade out of the 1st round.

If one of the 12 difference makers Dorsey likes doesn't fall to Chiefs at 28, they could trade down to acquire multiple picks in 2nd/3rd.

I feel the same way after listening to Dorsey last week.

And we have been in the misinformation segment of the pre-draft buzz for a bit now. Dan Pompei released his mock draft recently and the comment he states attached with the Chiefs pick at 28 is that the Chiefs are trying to trade up ahead of the teams projected to take receivers. Take it for what it's worth. Pompei usually releases his mock after he does his rounds speaking to front office personnel around the league. I don't consider Pompei to be some kind of draft authority but he's not a hack either. He mocked Emmanuel Ogbah to the Chiefs by the way at 28.

Thursday night should be entertaining to say the least.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Of course he doesn't know it all and can't predict every single thing, but that doesn't change the fact that he's spot on more than anybody in the business.

If you can't listen to Mayock, you can't listen to anybody.

I saw a few days ago he's got Apple falling big in his rankings.

This is post-combine and post-pro day. I didn't really get to read long - was there any reason given?...

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I saw a few days ago he's got Apple falling big in his rankings.

This is post-combine and post-pro day. I didn't really get to read long - was there any reason given?...

I have no idea, but I know I personally have Apple behind Alexander and Jackson. I saw some "tape" that soured me a little on him.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

And we have been in the misinformation segment of the pre-draft buzz for a bit now. Dan Pompei released his mock draft recently and the comment he states attached with the Chiefs pick at 28 is that the Chiefs are trying to trade up ahead of the teams projected to take receivers. Take it for what it's worth. Pompei usually releases his mock after he does his rounds speaking to front office personnel around the league. I don't consider Pompei to be some kind of draft authority but he's not a hack either. He mocked Emmanuel Ogbah to the Chiefs by the way at 28.

Thursday night should be entertaining to say the least.

It's a real possibility IMO. I'm shocked if it's a WR due to Maclin and Conley being there for the next few years. If we do trade up for a WR I think it's Corey Coleman BC he fits us very well. Very Brandin Cooks-esque.

I'm not buying it being a WR though. I think there's a possibility that the Chiefs can get one of the corners before Pittsburgh can get their hands on them.

[Sandy Vagina]

If they don't view Conley or Albert W as strong threats (someone defenses have to frequently throw extra coverage at), and a WR prospect is available that they do feel can emerge as one.. it wouldn't surprise or disappoint.

I doubt they want to shake with fear again over any potential absence of Maclin. I agree with some/most? that there are not a lot of glaring needs for KC.. so a WR in rd 1 and CB in rd 2 could be the way to go.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

If they don't view Conley or Albert W as strong threats (someone defenses have to frequently throw extra coverage at), and a WR prospect is available that they do feel can emerge as one.. it wouldn't surprise or disappoint.

I doubt they want to shake with fear again over any potential absence of Maclin. I agree with some/most? that there are not a lot of glaring needs for KC.. so a WR in rd 1 and CB in rd 2 could be the way to go.

Dorsey comes from the old school of locking up OL/DL early in team-building and then putting numbers at WR/DB.

It makes even more sense in the modern NFL.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It looks like there's a very good chance we're stuck in the rift of the first Rd when all the premier talent is gone.

IMO the draft could go a lot like this:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/24/n...er-king-trades

IMO Lynch goes way higher and Kelly/Billings is off the board, but in this situation it looks like trading down is the best option.
Of the prospects left on the board (again I think Kelly/Billings are gone), the best prospect available appears to be Josh Garnett. I think if we stayed at 28 he's the guy (Vonn Bell is appealing here as well).

In this situation, do you trade down to the mid 30's if you can get a 4th Rd pick?

Mother of ****, people - it's legal to move UP.

4th rounders aren't worth shit. They're glorified UDFAs. We have more talent on this team from waivers amd flat out street FAs than from the 4th.

This is just the most wrong-headed shit and it's rampant on this board.

[O.city]

Who you trading up for then? I'd guess one of the corners?

If Hargreaves gets to 13, I'd call the dolphins and see if theyd take Charles and 28 for 13 and another pick

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mother of ****, people - it's legal to move UP.

4th rounders aren't worth shit. They're glorified UDFAs. We have more talent on this team from waivers amd flat out street FAs than from the 4th.

This is just the most wrong-headed shit and it's rampant on this board.

If it's the deepest draft since 2010 and the board is flat, why not trade down?

TJ Ward
Gronk
Daryl Washington
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Golden Tate
Lineal Joseph
Antonio Brown
Emmanuel Sanders
NaVorro Bowman
Redhead Jones
Jimmy Graham
Kam Chancellor
Alterraun Verner
Geno Atkins
Aaron Hernandez
Everson Griffin

None of these guys were first round picks that year. If talent is spread out like this, why not have more chances instead of trying to use those resources to cash one lottery ticket?

[The Franchise]

Who does Redhead Jones play for?

[RunKC]

Reshad Jones Miami pro bowl safety. Damn autocorrect