Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs Let's have a discussion about 2017.
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 2 of 4 1 2 34
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2016, 12:18 PM  
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1555912
Let's have a discussion about 2017.
As it currently sits, KC sits with 24m in cap space (according to overthecap and that doesn't include Ware/Wests deals) without Fisher, Poe or Berry under contract.

The team needs to either pick up Fishers 11.9m option (for 2017) by May 2nd iirc or decide to let him walk.

Fletcher Cox is turning down a 100m deal with 60 guaranteed...that impacts any negotiation KC is having with Poe...not sure how much, though.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the negotiations with Berry, too. Not too many safeties getting crazy money. I wonder what Berrys side is asking for and using as their leverage.

Eric Fisher is improving, but 12m is a lot of money.

Some big changes are on the horizon and I wouldn't be surprised if KC loses 1 or 2 of those guys.
Posts: 47,876
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 04:30 PM   #16
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $-1420389
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet. Overthecap predicts we get 4 comp picks next year from the contracts of guys lost.

3.-->Sean Smith
4.-->Chase Daniel
6.-->Donald Stephenson
6.-->Tyvonn Branch
*Jeff Allen cancelled out by Mitchell Schwartz deal

It's gonna be fun as hell having 11 picks next year in the first year you can trade comp picks.
Posts: 52,064
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 04:57 PM   #17
mcaj22 mcaj22 is offline
MVP
 
mcaj22's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2010
Casino cash: $10014454
I think they keep Poe, Berry, Fisher

you're going to see guys like Charles, Colquitt, Mauga, etc get cut though, their contracts basically say it out loud in 2017.
Posts: 11,886
mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 05:02 PM   #18
pugsnotdrugs19 pugsnotdrugs19 is offline
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
 
pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $6629447
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaj22 View Post
I think they keep Poe, Berry, Fisher

you're going to see guys like Charles, Colquitt, Mauga, etc get cut though, their contracts basically say it out loud in 2017.
Charles is only if he takes a huge dip in production, but the others, yes. Along with a few more probably, if need be.
Posts: 29,037
pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 05:04 PM   #19
staylor26 staylor26 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-1900960
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet. Overthecap predicts we get 4 comp picks next year from the contracts of guys lost.

3.-->Sean Smith
4.-->Chase Daniel
6.-->Donald Stephenson
6.-->Tyvonn Branch
*Jeff Allen cancelled out by Mitchell Schwartz deal

It's gonna be fun as hell having 11 picks next year in the first year you can trade comp picks.
That's why I don't see any need to trade back. We can use some 2017 picks (though not the comp picks) to get back into the 3rd, should we not get it back.
Posts: 52,845
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 05:09 PM   #20
pugsnotdrugs19 pugsnotdrugs19 is offline
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
 
pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $6629447
It's going to be so much easier and common for teams to trade during the draft when that rule finally hits next year.
Posts: 29,037
pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 05:12 PM   #21
the Talking Can the Talking Can is offline
Supporter
 
the Talking Can's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: street
Casino cash: $9372208
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
Did you catch the interview of John Dorsey from a couple weeks ago?

He basically said they drafted Fisher with full understanding that his first 2 years were going to be bad and that he would start to get it in his third year if things go according to plan...

I thought that was a bit crazy to hear...they just saw that whole draft as crap.
being diplomatic...cause the other answer is "we were surprised he sucked so much ass his first two years...a total pussy" (and also the truth)
__________________
Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
Posts: 51,585
the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 05:19 PM   #22
the Talking Can the Talking Can is offline
Supporter
 
the Talking Can's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: street
Casino cash: $9372208
so, CB is obviously a need, but i think you can easily make a case for DL in the first if the right guy is there (Butler)

poe and howard are up in the next two years...one will not be resigned (howard, imo)...Butler 'could' make this line something special for 2 years on the cheap and step right in as a starter when howard signs a big money deal somewhere else

and in a normal dl draft, butler wouldn't fall to us (even hypothetically)
__________________
Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
Posts: 51,585
the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2016, 05:20 PM   #23
the Talking Can the Talking Can is offline
Supporter
 
the Talking Can's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: street
Casino cash: $9372208
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet. Overthecap predicts we get 4 comp picks next year from the contracts of guys lost.

3.-->Sean Smith
4.-->Chase Daniel
6.-->Donald Stephenson
6.-->Tyvonn Branch
*Jeff Allen cancelled out by Mitchell Schwartz deal

It's gonna be fun as hell having 11 picks next year in the first year you can trade comp picks.
muy excellente...and look who we're getting value for...daniel, stephenson, branch...a backup, a joke, and a guy picked off the garbage heap

Dorsey is good at this
__________________
Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
Posts: 51,585
the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 07:46 AM   #24
mcaj22 mcaj22 is offline
MVP
 
mcaj22's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2010
Casino cash: $10014454
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 View Post
Charles is only if he takes a huge dip in production, but the others, yes. Along with a few more probably, if need be.
We would free up 7 million in cap space and take 0 dead money, unless Charles takes a huge pay cut he's as good as gone regardless of production.

I'll take that 7 million to keep Poe, Berry, Fisher any day.
Posts: 11,886
mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 08:09 AM   #25
pugsnotdrugs19 pugsnotdrugs19 is offline
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
 
pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $6629447
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaj22 View Post
We would free up 7 million in cap space and take 0 dead money, unless Charles takes a huge pay cut he's as good as gone regardless of production.

I'll take that 7 million to keep Poe, Berry, Fisher any day.
Well I think anyone would but if he goes out there and has another monster season, it would be hard to justify I would say
Posts: 29,037
pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 08:28 AM   #26
mcaj22 mcaj22 is offline
MVP
 
mcaj22's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2010
Casino cash: $10014454
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 View Post
Well I think anyone would but if he goes out there and has another monster season, it would be hard to justify I would say
I personally think he's about to get outplayed by Ware/West and it's just emotional attachment at this point to a fan favorite Chief that was the only good Chief during some terrible Fat Scott Pats Fraud years that everyone clung on to.
Posts: 11,886
mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 08:49 AM   #27
ROYC75 ROYC75 is offline
Time For Your Wake Up Call !!!
 
ROYC75's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Barn Yard
Casino cash: $2317400
Let's have a discussion about 2017.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
Let's have a discussion about 2017..

I will be 60 yrs old and would like to see another SB win before I die!
__________________
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.

John Lennon
Posts: 37,934
ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ROYC75 has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 08:53 AM   #28
MahiMike MahiMike is offline
He's Mahomie!
 
MahiMike's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Jax, FL
Casino cash: $10023443
Well shit. Guess we need to draft another OL at 1.28.
__________________
99.9%
Posts: 17,387
MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahiMike is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 08:58 AM   #29
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $-545936
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaj22 View Post
I personally think he's about to get outplayed by Ware/West and it's just emotional attachment at this point to a fan favorite Chief that was the only good Chief during some terrible Fat Scott Pats Fraud years that everyone clung on to.
Possibly.

I think ware certainly has a chance, west is a bit overrated around here imo, but I think he's a solid player.

If Charles comes back healthy and in top form, he's a unique talent and combined with the current offensive weapons, could have an mvp type year.
Posts: 84,157
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2016, 09:04 AM   #30
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $-1420389
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can View Post
muy excellente...and look who we're getting value for...daniel, stephenson, branch...a backup, a joke, and a guy picked off the garbage heap

Dorsey is good at this
Next year is the year I'm looking at QB's. We could easily trade up wih that ammo if we wanted.
Posts: 52,064
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 4 1 2 34

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:28 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.