Chiefs Log jam at RB - Page 5

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 06:45 PM

So we have three starting caliber Running Backs. 2 of them are at the beginning of their career and one is at the end of his career. I know Charles is a Chief icon but should we hang on to him, use him as trade bait for draft position or use him as part of a deal to bring other players in?

I know this won't be a popular topic of discussion but a RB entering his 8th year and coming off of his second major knee surgery we need to think about what our plans are with him and the young talent behind him going forward.

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then why would you expect a high draft pick for a 29 year old back coming off a torn ACL?

That doesn't make any sense.

A third round pick? Because third round picks end up being impact players?

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Didn't they try to move him last offseason? Or maybe 2 years ago at the deadline? Anyway, I seem to remember someone offering a 6th.

Nopbody is getting stupid for Charles.

I can't remember what I had for lunch Yesterday.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-10-2016, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

A third round pick? Because third round picks end up being impact players?

Keenan Allen, Jimmy Graham, Justin Houston, Frank Gore and a guy named Jamaal Charles.

Oh yeah, and someone named Russell Wilson.

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Keenan Allen, Jimmy Graham, Justin Houston, Frank Gore and a guy named Jamaal Charles.

Oh yeah, and someone named Russell Wilson.

Out of how many third round picks between 2008 and now?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-10-2016, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Out of how many third round picks between 2008 and now?

Dude, what the ****? I'm not doing your research for you.

GOOD teams draft well, regardless of the round.

In the past several years, the Chiefs nabbed Houston, Stephenson ($5 million per to the Broncos), Knile Davis, Philip Gaines and Chris Conley.

The NFL is littered with 3rd round players at every position.

JFC.

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, what the ****? I'm not doing your research for you.

GOOD teams draft well, regardless of the round.

In the past several years, the Chiefs nabbed Houston, Stephenson ($5 million per to the Broncos), Knile Davis, Philip Gaines and Chris Conley.

The NFL is littered with 3rd round players at every position.

JFC.

Holy hell dude relax. It's a discussion on a discussion board. We are not writing international policy here. Talk about JFC moment yourself. Go take a Xanax and clam the **** down.

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 11:04 PM

The point is that 31 players taken in the third round each year since 2008. 248 people. You named 5 impact players. Yes there are literally dozens of third round picks playing in the NFL today but you could hardly call them all impact players. Jamaal is and impact player with 2-3 years tops left in him. A team that is in desperate need of an impact RB (patriots) might be willing to part with a third who most likely won't be an impact player.

The patriots lost to the Broncos because they had no running game whatsoever. The Broncos D could come on every play because they knew they weren't running.

**Easy 6** · 03-10-2016, 11:12 PM

Not sure whats going on in here, Denvers just arguing for the hell of it

Chiefs Needs thread is much better

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-10-2016, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

The point is that 31 players taken in the third round each year since 2008. 248 people. You named 5 impact players. Yes there are literally dozens of third round picks playing in the NFL today but you could hardly call them all impact players. Jamaal is and impact player with 2-3 years tops left in him. A team that is in desperate need of an impact RB (patriots) might be willing to part with a third who most likely won't be an impact player.

The patriots lost to the Broncos because they had no running game whatsoever. The Broncos D could come on every play because they knew they weren't running.

Good ****ing God

This is my final response to this nonsense.

There are dozens and dozens of NFL 3rd rounders that contribute throughout the league, with some being superstars. I have neither the time nor the inclination to name them all but they exist in scores.

Second, the Patriots LOST because Bill ****ing Belichick had his team in the Red Zone, in the 4th quarter, THREE DIFFERENT TIMES and instead of taking the easy chipshot, he went for it on 4th down and lost every time.

It had absolutely ZERO to do with their lack of a running game and EVERYTHING to do with poor decision making.

And finally, there isn't one team in the NFL that would give up a 1, 2, or 3rd round pick for a 29 year old running back who's torn two ACL's in the past 5 seasons.

Zero. None. Nada. End of story.

DenverChief · 03-10-2016, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good ****ing God

This is my final response to this nonsense.

There are dozens and dozens of NFL 3rd rounders that contribute throughout the league, with some being superstars. I have neither the time nor the inclination to name them all but they exist in scores.

Second, the Patriots LOST because Bill ****ing Belichick had his team in the Red Zone, in the 4th quarter, THREE DIFFERENT TIMES and instead of taking the easy chipshot, he went for it on 4th down and lost every time.

It had absolutely ZERO to do with their lack of a running game and EVERYTHING to do with poor decision making.

And finally, there isn't one team in the NFL that would give up a 1, 2, or 3rd round pick for a 29 year old running back who's torn two ACL's in the past 5 seasons.

Zero. None. Nada. End of story.

Thank you for your opinion Trent Baalke

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-10-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Thank you for your opinion Trent Baalke

JFC. You've officially lost it.

The guy has missed 2 of the last 5 seasons with torn ACL's.

He's not worth a 7th rounder.

Get over.

**TimBone** · 03-10-2016, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And it only took him 700 more attempts.

Don't you dare start speaking ypc to Dane. The man believes it's a meaningless stat.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-10-2016, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

Don't you dare start speaking ypc to Dane. The man believes it's a meaningless stat.

I do, to a certain degree.

3 ypc is lame. Anything over 4 is impressive. Beyond that, it's about total production.

I couldn't care less if a guy has a 4.9 ypc average if he only rushes for 600 yards a year or less than 5,000 in a career.

On the other hand, a guy that has a 3.9 or 4 and has 10,000+ yards shows durability and longevity.

MMXcalibur · 03-10-2016, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I miss the days of Donnell Bennett

What's Rashaan Sheehee doing these days?

**TimBone** · 03-10-2016, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Out of how many third round picks between 2008 and now?

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

The point is that 31 players taken in the third round each year since 2008. 248 people. You named 5 impact players. Yes there are literally dozens of third round picks playing in the NFL today but you could hardly call them all impact players. Jamaal is and impact player with 2-3 years tops left in him. A team that is in desperate need of an impact RB (patriots) might be willing to part with a third who most likely won't be an impact player.

The patriots lost to the Broncos because they had no running game whatsoever. The Broncos D could come on every play because they knew they weren't running.

So wait, you're entire argument is 'let's trade an impact player for a pick that I'm admitting usually doesn't yield an impact player?'

I think it may be time for me to put this thread on ignore.

03-10-2016, 06:45 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	Log jam at RB So we have three starting caliber Running Backs. 2 of them are at the beginning of their career and one is at the end of his career. I know Charles is a Chief icon but should we hang on to him, use him as trade bait for draft position or use him as part of a deal to bring other players in? I know this won't be a popular topic of discussion but a RB entering his 8th year and coming off of his second major knee surgery we need to think about what our plans are with him and the young talent behind him going forward.
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03-10-2016, 11:04 PM	#67
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	The point is that 31 players taken in the third round each year since 2008. 248 people. You named 5 impact players. Yes there are literally dozens of third round picks playing in the NFL today but you could hardly call them all impact players. Jamaal is and impact player with 2-3 years tops left in him. A team that is in desperate need of an impact RB (patriots) might be willing to part with a third who most likely won't be an impact player. The patriots lost to the Broncos because they had no running game whatsoever. The Broncos D could come on every play because they knew they weren't running.
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03-10-2016, 11:12 PM	#68
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $77775	Not sure whats going on in here, Denvers just arguing for the hell of it Chiefs Needs thread is much better
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