Smith signs with Raiders

[chiefforlife]

Raiders add cornerback Sean Smith
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2016, 7:55 AM EST
Sean Smith AP

The best available player in our Free Agent Hot 100 has been snapped up.

Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith has agreed to a deal with the Raiders.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that it’s a four-year deal worth $40 million, with $20 million guaranteed.

Heading into free agency, Smith was our No. 14 player available. The 13 ahead of him have all either signed a contract or been franchised.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-sean-smith/

A 2009 second-round pick of the Dolphins, Smith played four seasons in Miami before signing a three-year, $18 million deal with the Chiefs in free agency. Now Smith is on his third team, and his third contract.

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Originally Posted by scho63

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

Not me. Dude wants to get high and hang out in his home town. He doesn't care about the Lombardi or being great like Peters wants to. He benefited from great talent around him... How do the ppl on here think we got him on a team friendly deal after he left Miami??

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by scho63

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

He is a good NFL starting CB player.

He's not elite or shut down like this forum makes him sound like nor is he worth 10 million per.

He's a 6'3 mismatch CB that not many teams have the luxury of having every week. Most offenses don't have to game plan against a Sean Smith type every week so when he comes up he's giving a different look at your WRs than most CBs they face in a given season. Does that make him better/good? Maybe. But it certainly makes him a nice luxury to have in your scheme.

The factors that made him good here:

He played RCB, he didn't even have to face good WRs most weeks. He was playing teams #2, #3 best options most of the time. The times teams did dare to put a good talent on his side (Watkins, Gronk, Sanders, etc) he most certainly did struggle.

Raiders are paying him 10 million per to what, line him up as their RCB? I don't even know who their scheme is, but if they plan on playing him at LCB and he's facing Maclin, Thomas, Benjamin 2x a year he might actually struggle.

He benefited here big time playing in a scheme for 3 years where he had over the top help from guys like Ron Parker, Eric Berry, Kurt Coleman, Abdullah, Branch, Demps, etc.

He's not going to have that much talent behind him in Oakland so he's going to have to pick his spots a lot more carefully on when to be aggressive in case he loses.

That doesn't mean he stinks, but if you think you can put him on an island for 60 snaps a game it's going to be a long season.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I have a suspicion that Dorsey and Reid might let Gaines take that #2 CB spot.

Just think, he's got Sean Smith's size, length, press ability, and is much faster. That's obviously really important for our press man scheme.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Even though depth still needs desperately addressed.

That's a big if coming off major injury and still green in the league.

Not the position you can mask very easily if it turns out he is the suck.

I'm not thrilled about the loss, and CB is a premium in the pass happy game today. I guess I'm just not sure why they let him walk for a reasonable contract they could have matched.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Sean is a good NFL CB, but limited. He's not a great one. He fit this scheme well. He will not fit as well in Oakland.

He is not worth 10 mil. per and the Chiefs couldn't afford the front-loaded contract Oakland gave him anyway.

We are not a better team without him, but we will not miss him that much. Time for Dorsey to find the next veteran bounce-back candidate for cheap, and add some CB talent in the draft.


We will be fine without Sean Smith.

[ct]

Originally Posted by scho63

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

i've been saying for awhile i much preferred to keep howard over smith.

that he's a good cb, not great. he just got paid like a great corner, but that he ain't. he's a box cb, which works with solid players around you, but not when you get out of your box.

i'd have taken him back at much less than 10per, but no way he's worth that.

bye

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

We will be fine without Sean Smith.

Everyone keeps saying that, i'm trying really hard to convince myself that it's true.

I get a feeling that losing Smith it's going to kick us in the nuts.

Sutton is limited,secondary coaching hasn't been anything special

Without 2 outside corners our defense just isn't the same.


Imo we would have been better off keeping Sean Smith and letting Eric Berry go. We have played pretty well without Berry can't say the same without Smith.

People talk about Gaines and even Nelson, both unproven as hell.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I still remember the multiple times this year where Jaye made a play and I literally exclaimed, "PAY THAT MAN"....

Didn't think it was even remotely possible a few days ago. Cool stuff.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Everyone keeps saying that, i'm trying really hard to convince myself that it's true.

I get a feeling that losing Smith it's going to kick us in the nuts.

Sutton is limited,secondary coaching hasn't been anything special

Without 2 outside corners our defense just isn't the same.


Imo we would have been better off keeping Sean Smith and letting Eric Berry go. We have played pretty well without Berry can't say the same without Smith.

People talk about Gaines and even Nelson, both unproven as hell.

I would say relax Laz, we can't forget, our defense was damn good in 2014 with a revolving door at CB2. Literally, we started what, 3 guys at that spot that year? I know Smith was there, but he wasn't making the impact Peters did last year down the stretch.

We can overcome this with our front 7 healthy.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I would say relax Laz, we can't forget, our defense was damn good in 2014 with a revolving door at CB2. Literally, we started what, 3 guys at that spot that year? I know Smith was there, but he wasn't making the impact Peters did last year down the stretch.

We can overcome this with our front 7 healthy.

i hope so

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

secondary coaching hasn't been anything special

I strongly disagree with this statement.

The Chiefs secondary has been one of its best units since the hiring of Reid and Dorsey. They've been able to coach up scrap heap players like Sean Smith, Ron Parker, Hussein Abdullah, Kurt Coleman and Tyvon Branch.

Eric Berry had his best season in 2015, Marcus Peters improved during the course of the season and Gaines looked to be on the verge of breaking out before the ACL injury. Nelson improved during the season as well, not to mention Cooper's 2013 rookie campaign.

I think the secondary coaching has been phenomenal and if they were given more talent, would be once again, among the best in the league.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Everyone keeps saying that, i'm trying really hard to convince myself that it's true.

I get a feeling that losing Smith it's going to kick us in the nuts.

Sutton is limited,secondary coaching hasn't been anything special

Without 2 outside corners our defense just isn't the same.


Imo we would have been better off keeping Sean Smith and letting Eric Berry go. We have played pretty well without Berry can't say the same without Smith.

People talk about Gaines and even Nelson, both unproven as hell.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

i hope so

Houston makes a world of difference himself alone, now we get to add the rest of the gang back to that. Makes those DB's jobs so much easier.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I know it wasnt realistic but I was really hoping we could somehow keep him.

Yep. He was last on the Chiefs priority b/c of who else they needed to sign and was always gonna go to the highest bidder regardless, (nothing wrong with that) so it worked out as I expected. Its a BIG loss IMO, but Id rather have signed the guys we did first.

[MikeMaslowski]

The best thing about this is the Chiefs KNOW him inside and out. They know his weaknesses, they know what gets under his skin and Alex has plenty of practice against him and plenty of tape to study. Go to the enemy, become the enemy twice a year bitch.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Houston makes a world of difference himself alone, now we get to add the rest of the gang back to that. Makes those DB's jobs so much easier.

True. But attendance is part of the grade and Houston has failed that part two of the last 3 years when needed most. Still, you gotta take your chances with him.