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**chiefforlife** · 07:05 AM

Raiders add cornerback Sean Smith
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2016, 7:55 AM EST
Sean Smith AP

The best available player in our Free Agent Hot 100 has been snapped up.

Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith has agreed to a deal with the Raiders.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that it’s a four-year deal worth $40 million, with $20 million guaranteed.

Heading into free agency, Smith was our No. 14 player available. The 13 ahead of him have all either signed a contract or been franchised.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-sean-smith/

A 2009 second-round pick of the Dolphins, Smith played four seasons in Miami before signing a three-year, $18 million deal with the Chiefs in free agency. Now Smith is on his third team, and his third contract.

Mother****erJones · 03-10-2016, 02:10 PM

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thanks chumps

Got it right this time. Chump. Learn to post in the correct thread dumbass

R8RFAN · 03-10-2016, 02:10 PM

i am not completely sold on smith... he was the best available though

R8RFAN · 03-10-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Got it right this time. Chump. Learn to post in the correct thread dumbass

on the phone rubbing my cock thinking of u

NWTF · 03-10-2016, 02:17 PM

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The Raiders? Of all the teams in the league he chooses them? Wow...

He was a rental and nothing more.

Well, they are based in Cali which probably had a lot to do with it and they are more of an average type team now than a bottom feeder. And if the money is right, he could have done a lot worse then them.

DJ's left nut · 03-10-2016, 02:21 PM

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i am not completely sold on smith... he was the best available though

He has a pretty great Plan B.

Plan A: Stick with you as best I can while using length to deflect passes thrown your way.

Plan B: In the event I can't hang, I'm going to beat the ever living shit out of you and hope you stop making me chase you.

I really think there were times that he simply knocked the fight out of WRs. Guys just flat got tired of him hitting them and he was great about doing it legally.

Like I said, he's a hard guy to replace because he's just very unique in what he did. He was actually good at what Brandon Browner tried to do poorly.

**Easy 6** · 03-10-2016, 02:33 PM

I agree an awful lot with DJ, Smith is a unique talent for his size and it DOES suck to lose him... surprised Seattle didnt take a shot at him, they love big bruisers like him back there

But all things considered, I'd rather have Berry and Howard

They're both younger, also

Berry is not only wildly talented, but is also the inspirational heart of the defense

Howard ensures that we have REAL talent all up and down that line, rock solid vs the run, puts great pressure on the pocket, and pass rush aids corners more than vice versa

Steron · 03-10-2016, 02:51 PM

Bye Felicia.

OldSchool · 03-10-2016, 03:46 PM

Meh, to beat him all a QB had to do was stick a WR with decent speed and ball skills on Smith and toss it up. Smith's ball skills left a lot to be desired. Maclin will eat him alive.

Smith was a solid CB but had some pretty glaring faults, poor ball skills and severe lack of speed and quickness. It's not like we can't do better. I wouldn't be surprised if Gaines returned healthy this year and makes us completely forget about Smith.

mcaj22 · 03-10-2016, 03:49 PM

If the help over the top isnt there after 10 yards Sean Smith gets exposed.

Sutton did a good job of making sure one of the 50 safeties he put out there always rolled over the top on Smiths side.

The times there wasnt any help or miscommunication it was pretty obvious how Smith can lose, example: Sammy Watkins

scho63 · 03-10-2016, 03:50 PM

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

Mr. Laz · 03-10-2016, 03:53 PM

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i am not completely sold on smith... he was the best available though

you guys better play him against the sideline so receivers only have a one-way go. If you put him in a slot type situation he will struggle big time.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-10-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

I think we all agree that we would have liked to keep Smith. He would be an amazing #2 corner here.

But we also, like Oakland should be, would be concerned about a 40 million dollar deal to a 29 year old corner who doesn't have a lot of speed to burn.

OldSchool · 03-10-2016, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

I think it's more the fact that people didn't want another hole to open up on the roster. They saw what the defense was like when it had to rely on the #4 and #5 options early in the season (Gaines would have been the nickel had he not gotten injured).

Now without a 3rd rounder in this draft, losing a solid starter like Smith is something no one wants. That being said, he wasn't without his flaws and could definitely be upgraded.

Mr. Laz · 03-10-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Amazing that there was a near consensus that everyone wanted Dorsey to try and retain Sean Smith because he was a good player that fit in well and now that he is gone, suddenly his skills have diminished between the end of the season and the start of free agency.

Did he trip over a chair or become an alcoholic in the off-season and lose his mojo?

What do you expect? He's a raider now so he's crap. We don't sit around and talk about how good faider players are.

I thought Smith was more important for us to keep than Berry.

Smith is gone now and Berry is still Chiefs so Berry > Smith

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-10-2016, 03:57 PM

Gaines could be the #2 or nickel, but he will be starting. That other spot is just a ?. Not sure it's a bad thing. Still think Nelson can be a fine #4 with potential to grow. He's a third rounder with potential.

We're gonna have plently of opportunities to address that position in whichever way Dorsey sees fit.

03-10-2016, 07:03 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Smith signs with Raiders Raiders add cornerback Sean Smith Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2016, 7:55 AM EST Sean Smith AP The best available player in our Free Agent Hot 100 has been snapped up. Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith has agreed to a deal with the Raiders. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that it’s a four-year deal worth $40 million, with $20 million guaranteed. Heading into free agency, Smith was our No. 14 player available. The 13 ahead of him have all either signed a contract or been franchised. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-sean-smith/ A 2009 second-round pick of the Dolphins, Smith played four seasons in Miami before signing a three-year, $18 million deal with the Chiefs in free agency. Now Smith is on his third team, and his third contract. Last edited by chiefforlife; 03-10-2016 at 07:05 AM.. Reason: adding Link
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OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Meh, to beat him all a QB had to do was stick a WR with decent speed and ball skills on Smith and toss it up. Smith's ball skills left a lot to be desired. Maclin will eat him alive. Smith was a solid CB but had some pretty glaring faults, poor ball skills and severe lack of speed and quickness. It's not like we can't do better. I wouldn't be surprised if Gaines returned healthy this year and makes us completely forget about Smith.
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