Chiefs Smith signs with Raiders - Page 10

**chiefforlife** · 07:05 AM

Raiders add cornerback Sean Smith
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2016, 7:55 AM EST
Sean Smith AP

The best available player in our Free Agent Hot 100 has been snapped up.

Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith has agreed to a deal with the Raiders.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that it’s a four-year deal worth $40 million, with $20 million guaranteed.

Heading into free agency, Smith was our No. 14 player available. The 13 ahead of him have all either signed a contract or been franchised.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-sean-smith/

A 2009 second-round pick of the Dolphins, Smith played four seasons in Miami before signing a three-year, $18 million deal with the Chiefs in free agency. Now Smith is on his third team, and his third contract.

**Rain Man** · 03-10-2016, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Sean Smith is a faider now ... trash away!!

He drinks too much.

saphojunkie · 03-10-2016, 12:53 PM

Looking at the contracts now, how about we have that "Would you rather sign Howard or Smith" conversation again?

Enjoy your thirty year old skill position, Raiders. You'll have a couple of dead money cap years to remind you.

lawrenceRaider · 03-10-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Looking at the contracts now, how about we have that "Would you rather sign Howard or Smith" conversation again?

Enjoy your thirty year old skill position, Raiders. You'll have a couple of dead money cap years to remind you.

The money is all up front in the first couple of years. After that we walk away with little or no cap hit. Reggie has done all the FA deals he hands out like that.

WeathermanKumke · 03-10-2016, 12:57 PM

Love the clowns cursing out Sean smith because we didn't offer him a giant ass contract and had other needs to be filled. But again, those same morons said Geno Smith and RGKnee and other shit QBs were good. Can't wait to be at arrowhead and see Sean smith pick 6 Alex smith and rubs it in all the pathetic worthless white trash that get butthurt whenever a player leaves or doesn't do what they want.

WeathermanKumke · 03-10-2016, 12:58 PM

I bet you would have been all on your knees sucking his dick if he would have resigned with us

DJ's left nut · 03-10-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The money is all up front in the first couple of years. After that we walk away with little or no cap hit. Reggie has done all the FA deals he hands out like that.

The terms haven't been announced yet but if there's actually $20 million in guaranteed money, you've got him for 3 years.

I guess its possible that they still stuck with a low signing bonus and simply guaranteed his first and second year salaries to push that guarantee up a bit. In that case, they could escape after 2 seasons.

As is usually the case, the terms will dictate the 'real' contract. I don't believe those have been released yet.

lawrenceRaider · 03-10-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

It's not going to be a weakness to be honest now. We signed arguably the best RT in the game. Fisher came on last year.
Morse is really good. We need guards possibly we'll see how they go into year two.

Mack picked up a pair of sacks against Swartz last year so . . .

saphojunkie · 03-10-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The money is all up front in the first couple of years. After that we walk away with little or no cap hit. Reggie has done all the FA deals he hands out like that.

Link?

lawrenceRaider · 03-10-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The terms haven't been announced yet but if there's actually $20 million in guaranteed money, you've got him for 3 years.

I guess its possible that they still stuck with a low signing bonus and simply guaranteed his first and second year salaries to push that guarantee up a bit. In that case, they could escape after 2 seasons.

As is usually the case, the terms will dictate the 'real' contract. I don't believe those have been released yet.

All of Reggies deals have guaranteed salary with no or low signing bonuses. It's basically a two year deal with Raider options for years 3 & 4.

Mr. Laz · 03-10-2016, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Mack picked up a pair of sacks against Swartz last year so . . .

Mack is a dam good player, he's going to get his

Schwartz owned VonMiller

i think Fisher has a pretty good record against VonMiller too.

Chiefs are building to beat Denver.

DJ's left nut · 03-10-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke

Love the clowns cursing out Sean smith because we didn't offer him a giant ass contract and had other needs to be filled. But again, those same morons said Geno Smith and RGKnee and other shit QBs were good. Can't wait to be at arrowhead and see Sean smith pick 6 Alex smith and rubs it in all the pathetic worthless white trash that get butthurt whenever a player leaves or doesn't do what they want.

Sean?

Sean's cousin?

This seems a wildly disproportionate amount of vitriol for what has been a pretty measured response from Chiefs fans.

Chiefnj2 · 03-10-2016, 01:04 PM

Smith was stud at corner for KC. People acting like he was some JAG are clueless. Sutton NEEDS lockdown man corners.

Schwartz was a great signing on paper. Hopefully he pans out better than last years great signing on paper - Grubbs.

Loss of a third round pick sucks ass. Really dumb mistake by management.

Great deal for Howard. I guess the market for 1 year wonders wasn't as big as he thought with this draft class.

It's good to bring back DJ and Hali, especially for sentimental reasons, but at their age they are going to decline quickly. Hopefully the cap hits won't be too bad.

saphojunkie · 03-10-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

All of Reggies deals have guaranteed salary with no or low signing bonuses. It's basically a two year deal with Raider options for years 3 & 4.

If it's true, then that's a pretty good deal, actually. But $20M guaranteed out of $40M total doesn't seem to add up to no signing bonus.

lawrenceRaider · 03-10-2016, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Mack is a dam good player, he's going to get his

Schwartz owned VonMiller

i think Fisher has a pretty good record against VonMiller too.

Chiefs are building to beat Denver.

Good. Denver needs to go down, and go down hard. I find it hard to believe they weren't circumventing the cap the last few years, just like the last time they won a Superbowl.

The big difference between Mack and Miller is that Mack can bull rush pretty near any OL where Miller has to run around them. Plus Mack can run around guys well when they set to try and stop his bull rush.

lawrenceRaider · 03-10-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

If it's true, then that's a pretty good deal, actually. But $20M guaranteed out of $40M total doesn't seem to add up to no signing bonus.

First two years of salary at $10M/year most likely, though I'm not ruling out a signing bonus. Considering what CB's like Jenkins got, the Raiders have a pretty decent deal for Sean Smith. They may have even given him $12M in 2016 as guaranteed salary to lower the hit in later years.

03-10-2016, 07:03 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Smith signs with Raiders Raiders add cornerback Sean Smith Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2016, 7:55 AM EST Sean Smith AP The best available player in our Free Agent Hot 100 has been snapped up. Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith has agreed to a deal with the Raiders. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that it’s a four-year deal worth $40 million, with $20 million guaranteed. Heading into free agency, Smith was our No. 14 player available. The 13 ahead of him have all either signed a contract or been franchised. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-sean-smith/ A 2009 second-round pick of the Dolphins, Smith played four seasons in Miami before signing a three-year, $18 million deal with the Chiefs in free agency. Now Smith is on his third team, and his third contract. Last edited by chiefforlife; 03-10-2016 at 07:05 AM.. Reason: adding Link
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6674388	Smith was stud at corner for KC. People acting like he was some JAG are clueless. Sutton NEEDS lockdown man corners. Schwartz was a great signing on paper. Hopefully he pans out better than last years great signing on paper - Grubbs. Loss of a third round pick sucks ass. Really dumb mistake by management. Great deal for Howard. I guess the market for 1 year wonders wasn't as big as he thought with this draft class. It's good to bring back DJ and Hali, especially for sentimental reasons, but at their age they are going to decline quickly. Hopefully the cap hits won't be too bad. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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