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Old 03-10-2016, 04:33 AM  
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Chiefs release Ben Grubbs
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Just a year after trading for Ben Grubbs and giving him a new four-year deal, the Kansas City Chiefs are parting ways with the veteran guard.

According to Howard Balzer of the Sports Xchange, the Chiefs released Grubbs on Wednesday with a failed physical designation.

Grubbs played in just seven games for the Chiefs before landing on injured reserve with a neck injury.

The Chiefs replaced Grubbs at left guard with Jeff Allen and Zach Fulton for the remainder of the season. But Allen signed with the Houston Texans on Wednesday, leaving the Chiefs with one fewer option to potentially replace Grubbs this season.

Fulton and Jah Reid would be potentially replacements already on the Kansas City roster.

Grubbs turns 32 on Thursday. He could still see interest on the market from line-needy teams if he can move beyond the neck injury that ended his 2015 season.
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:35 AM   #16
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Damn, I had this one wrong. Thought we'd keep him around another year. Guess the injury is pretty bad. Wonder if we get any of that money opened up due to failed physical?
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:02 AM   #18
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:37 AM   #19
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What is the cap hit on this move? Kind of a bummer deal. At least the trade wasn't for much
giving Grubbs a new contract immediately was not one of Dorsey's better moves
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:09 AM   #21
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giving Grubbs a new contract immediately was not one of Dorsey's better moves
It wasn't a bad move. We were cap-strapped last year..... couldn't afford his expensive Saints contract.
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It wasn't a bad move. We were cap-strapped last year..... couldn't afford his expensive Saints contract.
There are better way to do it.

Ways that don't create more dead money


Pretty much the worst thing you can do when dealing with the cap is create dead money.
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There are better way to do it.

Ways that don't create more dead money


Pretty much the worst thing you can do when dealing with the cap is create dead money.
Free agency is just as much of a gamble as the draft.

If the signing worked out, it would have given us a much stronger OL.

And please, tell us how to manage the cap correctly....
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Ways that don't create more dead money


Pretty much the worst thing you can do when dealing with the cap is create dead money.
They didn't redo the contract to generate dead money. They didn't know he wouldn't be able to pass a physical this season when they did it.
If Grubbs could have passed his physical and contributed this year then it would have been considered a good cap move.

Tamba's contract, on the other hand, deliberately created dead money in a season where the Chiefs knew they'd have more cap space to work with.
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Free agency is just as much of a gamble as the draft.

If the signing worked out, it would have given us a much stronger OL.

And please, tell us how to manage the cap correctly....
It was a trade, not FA

I know quite a bit about the cap, at least the old cap.

Dead money is the main thing to be avoided, everything else is workable.
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They didn't redo the contract to generate dead money. They didn't know he wouldn't be able to pass a physical this season when they did it.
If Grubbs could have passed his physical and contributed this year then it would have been considered a good cap move.

Tamba's contract, on the other hand, deliberately created dead money in a season where the Chiefs knew they'd have more cap space to work with.
Of course they didn't do it to intentionally created dead money but giving a guy a new contract when you did have to is risking that.

They could have freed up money using another player that we knew what we had.
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What is the cap hit on this move? Kind of a bummer deal. At least the trade wasn't for much
$5.2m in dead money and $1.1m in savings.
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Grubbs plays OG you dumbass
I don't blame him for not knowing Grubbs. Dude was a shit salad. Might as well have been a WR.
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Of course they didn't do it to intentionally created dead money but giving a guy a new contract when you did have to is risking that.

They could have freed up money using another player that we knew what we had.
We have dead money in Grubbs because Dorsey signed him to a deal that was going to be cheap yearly after giving him a decent signing bonus.

If the deal works out, Dorsey looks like the genius he is...but the guy was having trouble changing to a new blocking scheme and then hurt his neck before he could acclimate.

As a fan, I'd love to see Dorsey continue to take shots like that.

It's not always going to work out.
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$5.2m in dead money and $1.1m in savings.
FWIW cutting Fanaika would leave us $1.1m in dead money and only save $966k
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