Chiefs Chiefs not likely to fare as well in draft as in 2015 - Page 3

oaklandhater · 02-16-2016, 03:39 PM

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Adam Teicher
ESPN Staff Writer

CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs came away from last year’s draft with what looks like it could be a good haul. The Chiefs landed cornerback Marcus Peters in the first round, center Mitch Morse in the second, wide receiver Chris Conley in the third and perhaps a couple of future contributors in later rounds.

It will be more difficult for the Chiefs to come away with a solid draft class this year. The Chiefs pick lower in each round because they made the playoffs and advanced to the divisional round. (That’s how the process works, for those of us in Kansas City who haven't had a reason to know such things for a long time.)

The Chiefs don't figure to land anyone in the draft who can have as big an impact as Marcus Peters did in 2015. Cary Edmondson/USA TODAY Sports
They’ll pick 28th in the first round, 10 choices later than the spot where they picked Peters out of the University of Washington. The Chiefs haven’t had their first pick at 28 or lower since 2004, when they traded out of the first round and picked Oregon defensive tackle Junior Siavii with their initial choice.

If that’s not scary enough, the Chiefs came up with Pittsburgh wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin with the 26th pick in 2011, the last time they picked anywhere close to 28.

The Chiefs can do better than either Siavii or Baldwin in the first round this year, but they probably won’t do better than or equal to Peters.

The draft is a percentages game. The more picks a team has, the more productive players it usually comes up with. The Chiefs entered last year's draft with 10 picks, including extra compensatory selections in the third, fifth and sixth rounds. They only made nine choices after dealing their own sixth-round pick in a trade that allowed them to move up and pick Conley.

As of now, the Chiefs have eight picks this year, including a fifth-round choice obtained from Seattle last year in the trade that sent safety Kelcie McCray to the Seahawks. The NFL’s formula for awarding comp picks is mysterious, but the Chiefs would be wise if they don’t expect any this year. Picks are based on free-agent activity from the previous year and the Chiefs signed wide receiver Jeremy Maclin in 2015. His addition might preclude the Chiefs from getting any comp picks.

The Chiefs still can do well in this year’s draft, but they probably won’t emerge with as many good prospects as they added last year.

**New World Order** · 02-17-2016, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Elway has had a lot of very good draft picks... Von, Wolfe, Malik Jackson, Brock Osweiller, Julius Thomas, Orlando Franklin, Danny Trevathan, Roby, Ray, Sylvester Williams, Matt Paradis, Max Garcia... and then he's gotten great undrafted free agents like Chris Harris Jr, CJ Anderson, and Shaq Barret.

Most of those are role players. Let's take a look at the impact players that boosted Denver into super bowl contention under Elway's tenure:

Manning- FA

Emmanual Sanders- FA

Demaryius- Drafted by Mcdaniels

Von Miller- Draft Pick

TJ Ward- FA

Talib- FA

Harris- FA

Ware- FA

Your pro bowl receiving threats were not drafted by Elway. Your secondary pro bowlers were not drafted by Elway.

Nice try.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-17-2016, 05:01 AM

Chris Harris was an UDFA that Elway brought in. And Malik Jackson, Derek Wolfe, Roby, Sylvester Williams, CJ Anderson, Brandon McManus, and Danny Trevathan had a whole hell of a lot more to do with the Broncos Super Bowl win than Peyton Manning did.

Red Beans · 02-17-2016, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Chris Harris was an UDFA that Elway brought in. And Malik Jackson, Derek Wolfe, Roby, Sylvester Williams, CJ Anderson, Brandon McManus, and Danny Trevathan had a whole hell of a lot more to do with the Broncos Super Bowl win than Peyton Manning did.

I'm so pleased you came in and kept things on topic.

Dayze · 02-17-2016, 06:55 AM

back when I had a radio in my car many years ago, Teicher would have a weekly segment where he would come into the studio and give his 'takes'.

my god...the dude is a stuttering idiot. which makes perfect sense when you read his 'articles'. The dud can barely get out a coherent sentence.

**notorious** · 02-17-2016, 08:02 AM

How in the **** can they possibly know this?

**DaFace** · 02-17-2016, 08:06 AM

What a useless article. "They did well last year, and that's hard to repeat."

Thank you, Teicher for such a thought provoking article.

Marcellus · 02-17-2016, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace

What a useless article. "They did well last year, and that's hard to repeat."

Thank you, Teicher for such a thought provoking article.

Well not only is it stupid, in reality there is no basis to believe its really accurate. Just because we don't draft another DROY in the 1st and a starting OL in the 2nd (though this is very possible) doesn't mean the 2016 draft cant be just as big for KC long term as any draft in franchise history.

This is nothing more than some dude on CP posting shit like this.

Disgracefully lazy "journalism".

RunKC · 02-17-2016, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order

Most of those are role players. Let's take a look at the impact players that boosted Denver into super bowl contention under Elway's tenure:

Manning- FA

Emmanual Sanders- FA

Demaryius- Drafted by Mcdaniels

Von Miller- Draft Pick

TJ Ward- FA

Talib- FA

Harris- FA

Ware- FA

Your pro bowl receiving threats were not drafted by Elway. Your secondary pro bowlers were not drafted by Elway.

Nice try.

Pretty much this. Sylvester Williams is a JAG and Roby doesn't take on #1 WR's like Peters.
It's obvious that he built through his wallet.

02-16-2016, 03:39 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5888993	Chiefs not likely to fare as well in draft as in 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-draft-in-2015 Adam Teicher ESPN Staff Writer CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs came away from last year’s draft with what looks like it could be a good haul. The Chiefs landed cornerback Marcus Peters in the first round, center Mitch Morse in the second, wide receiver Chris Conley in the third and perhaps a couple of future contributors in later rounds. It will be more difficult for the Chiefs to come away with a solid draft class this year. The Chiefs pick lower in each round because they made the playoffs and advanced to the divisional round. (That’s how the process works, for those of us in Kansas City who haven't had a reason to know such things for a long time.) The Chiefs don't figure to land anyone in the draft who can have as big an impact as Marcus Peters did in 2015. Cary Edmondson/USA TODAY Sports They’ll pick 28th in the first round, 10 choices later than the spot where they picked Peters out of the University of Washington. The Chiefs haven’t had their first pick at 28 or lower since 2004, when they traded out of the first round and picked Oregon defensive tackle Junior Siavii with their initial choice. If that’s not scary enough, the Chiefs came up with Pittsburgh wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin with the 26th pick in 2011, the last time they picked anywhere close to 28. The Chiefs can do better than either Siavii or Baldwin in the first round this year, but they probably won’t do better than or equal to Peters. The draft is a percentages game. The more picks a team has, the more productive players it usually comes up with. The Chiefs entered last year's draft with 10 picks, including extra compensatory selections in the third, fifth and sixth rounds. They only made nine choices after dealing their own sixth-round pick in a trade that allowed them to move up and pick Conley. As of now, the Chiefs have eight picks this year, including a fifth-round choice obtained from Seattle last year in the trade that sent safety Kelcie McCray to the Seahawks. The NFL’s formula for awarding comp picks is mysterious, but the Chiefs would be wise if they don’t expect any this year. Picks are based on free-agent activity from the previous year and the Chiefs signed wide receiver Jeremy Maclin in 2015. His addition might preclude the Chiefs from getting any comp picks. The Chiefs still can do well in this year’s draft, but they probably won’t emerge with as many good prospects as they added last year.
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