Chiefs not likely to fare as well in draft as in 2015

[oaklandhater]

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-draft-in-2015

Adam Teicher
ESPN Staff Writer

CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs came away from last year’s draft with what looks like it could be a good haul. The Chiefs landed cornerback Marcus Peters in the first round, center Mitch Morse in the second, wide receiver Chris Conley in the third and perhaps a couple of future contributors in later rounds.

It will be more difficult for the Chiefs to come away with a solid draft class this year. The Chiefs pick lower in each round because they made the playoffs and advanced to the divisional round. (That’s how the process works, for those of us in Kansas City who haven't had a reason to know such things for a long time.)


The Chiefs don't figure to land anyone in the draft who can have as big an impact as Marcus Peters did in 2015. Cary Edmondson/USA TODAY Sports
They’ll pick 28th in the first round, 10 choices later than the spot where they picked Peters out of the University of Washington. The Chiefs haven’t had their first pick at 28 or lower since 2004, when they traded out of the first round and picked Oregon defensive tackle Junior Siavii with their initial choice.

If that’s not scary enough, the Chiefs came up with Pittsburgh wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin with the 26th pick in 2011, the last time they picked anywhere close to 28.

The Chiefs can do better than either Siavii or Baldwin in the first round this year, but they probably won’t do better than or equal to Peters.

The draft is a percentages game. The more picks a team has, the more productive players it usually comes up with. The Chiefs entered last year's draft with 10 picks, including extra compensatory selections in the third, fifth and sixth rounds. They only made nine choices after dealing their own sixth-round pick in a trade that allowed them to move up and pick Conley.

As of now, the Chiefs have eight picks this year, including a fifth-round choice obtained from Seattle last year in the trade that sent safety Kelcie McCray to the Seahawks. The NFL’s formula for awarding comp picks is mysterious, but the Chiefs would be wise if they don’t expect any this year. Picks are based on free-agent activity from the previous year and the Chiefs signed wide receiver Jeremy Maclin in 2015. His addition might preclude the Chiefs from getting any comp picks.

The Chiefs still can do well in this year’s draft, but they probably won’t emerge with as many good prospects as they added last year.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

2014 just wasn't Dorsey's year other then ford it look's like

Gaines has injury concern's
De'Anthony Thomas is a headcase
Aaron Murray is more then likely not the QBOTF
Zach Fulton is the weakest on our line
Tardif looks like he could become a solid starter

Draft kind of underwhelmed when its all said and done.

Just depends on how you look at it.

Gaines has one injury but has measurables that are on par with Trae Waynes, the guy taken 11th overall last year, and better rookie tape than Waynes had. You can't predict injury and the pick looked pretty great until the guys knee gave out. If he comes back at the level he was, he'll still be a damn good use of a 3rd rounder.

If Murray is a credible backup QB, he's a $2-3 million/yr cap savings and if that's all you ever get out of a 5th rounder, you're doing well. Fulton has warts, but he's also a guy that's shown that he can probably start on the interior line for 1/2 the teams in the league - huge win for a 6th round pick. And LDT is another guy who stepped in big time for us in a playoff run - if the guy dies tomorrow he'll have been a successful 6th rounder.

If 2014 is the worst draft on your resume, you're having a pretty damn good go of things.

[RealSNR]

If Adam Teicher drew comic strips, he'd be the guy who created Family Circus

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

If Adam Teicher drew comic strips, he'd be the guy who created Family Circus

I loved that article he had a while back where he traced Gus Frerotte's route from team to team by drawing dashed lines between them.

[Iowanian]

The Panthers took Kelvin Benjamin at #28 in the 2014 draft.....Bridgewater was #32.

The Lions took OG Laken Tomlinson at #28 in 2015...he started 14 games.


I think it's safe to say there are still good players on the board late into the 3rd round.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I think with Ford they just fell in love with his workouts. As an athlete his numbers are eye popping. Obviously it hasn't translated to the NFL level because it looks like his learning curve was bigger than they expected. They couldn't predict the concussions in the NFL either. But it's clear Ford was getting by in college by just being way more athletic than everyone else.

Gospel truth

Ford has mostly been a one trick speed rush pony

He doesnt have a reliable inside move against the pass, and cant break down and shed against the run very well yet either... be it the draft or free agency, we need some good insurance there

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Strongside

This is one of the dumbest articles I've read in quite some time. Teicher really phoned this one in. Tell us some shit we don't know, idiot.

It could truly be worse. Remember when he was doing video to go with his shit reporting. You'd have to look at his ugly mug, hear his Cowher voice and listen to his irrelevant thoughts spew forth.

[Kiimo]

Adam Teicher is like the saddest, weakest vampire. He's constantly starving because he can't even handle human children so he has to resort to feeding on pigeons.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

2014 just wasn't Dorsey's year other then ford it look's like

Gaines has injury concern's
De'Anthony Thomas is a headcase
Aaron Murray is more then likely not the QBOTF
Zach Fulton is the weakest on our line
Tardif looks like he could become a solid starter

Draft kind of underwhelmed when its all said and done.

that's a hell of a lot better than drafting a pair of midgets in the 2nd round or trading up for a TE made of glass because your buddy told you to when there were clear are pro bowl TEs just sitting out there to be picked

[DaneMcCloud]

Adam Teicher has sucked since he was hired.

There used to be a parody account at the old KC Star board that was hilarious.

[Gadzooks]

I guess you guys are ****ed. Teicher says so.

[Quesadilla Joe]

What sucks for the Chiefs is their pick resides in Elway territory and Elway simply doesn't sit and wait for good players to come to him. If the rest of the league messes up and lets a premier talent slip into the bottom half of the first round, Elway will leap the Chiefs and snag him.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

What sucks for the Chiefs is their pick resides in Elway territory and Elway simply doesn't sit and wait for good players to come to him. If the rest of the league messes up and lets a premier talent slip into the bottom half of the first round, Elway will leap the Chiefs and snag him.

Huh? Late first round picks under Elway:

Sylvester williams- 0 pro bowls. Solid player

Bradley Robey- 0 pro bowls. Doesn't even start. The guy who starts opposite of Talib wasn't even drafted by Elway.

Shane Ray- Doesn't even start. Who knows what he will do. The guy who starts over him wasn't even drafted by Elway.

no one is scared of Elway doing shit in the first round.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Roby is basically a starter, he plays more than Sylvester Williams does.

Shane Ray wasn't drafted to start in his rookie year, he was the best player left in the draft and Elway caught the rest of the league slipping and snatched him up. He'll be DeMarcus Ware's replacement eventually.

Elway has every GM picking in the bottom half of the first round scared shitless, he feasts on old school GM's who just sit and hope talent falls to them.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Roby is basically a starter, he plays more than Sylvester Williams does.

Shane Ray wasn't drafted to start in his rookie year, he was the best player left in the draft and Elway caught the rest of the league slipping and snatched him up. He'll be DeMarcus Ware's replacement eventually.

Elway has every GM picking in the bottom half of the first round scared shitless, he feasts on old school GM's who just sit and hope talent falls to them.

What you fail to realize is most of your impact players are free agents and not draft picks.

No one is scared of Elway doing anything in the draft. When he starts drafting impact/pro bowl player after pro bowl player then you can make a similar post.

But making that comment now is silly.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by New World Order

What you fail to realize is most of your impact players are free agents and not draft picks.

No one is scared of Elway doing anything in the draft. When he starts drafting impact/pro bowl player after pro bowl player then you can make a similar post.

But making that comment now is silly.

Elway has had a lot of very good draft picks... Von, Wolfe, Malik Jackson, Brock Osweiller, Julius Thomas, Orlando Franklin, Danny Trevathan, Roby, Ray, Sylvester Williams, Matt Paradis, Max Garcia... and then he's gotten great undrafted free agents like Chris Harris Jr, CJ Anderson, and Shaq Barret.