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Old 10-17-2015, 11:48 AM  
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Paxton Lynch
Qb from Memphis, on ABC right now against Ole miss.

He's endorsed by Sacofbats so, take caution, but I'm intrigued
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:23 PM   #121
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They don't have similar mobility. Lynch moves better than goff.

Lynch has the better physical attributes, goff has really good pocket presense but you're making it out like lynch is lacking there. He isnt.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:32 PM   #122
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:33 PM   #123
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The first .gif of Goff in jonzie's post is an nice read + playcall vs quarters.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:35 PM   #124
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Goffs pocket presense is awesome though.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:53 PM   #125
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They don't have similar mobility. Lynch moves better than goff.

Lynch has the better physical attributes, goff has really good pocket presense but you're making it out like lynch is lacking there. He isnt.
They do have similar mobility. They both look like 4.7 to 4.8 guys to me, with Lynch being the 4.7 guy.

And I can count on a single hand how many times Lynch has made a good throw from the inside pocket, while being forced to move, or while taking a big hit in 6 games. He usually gets the ball out before his pocket collapses, which is twice as much time as he will have in the NFL, or he drops his head and scrambles to the right. He is only put into these situations a few times per game. I'm not making Lynchs Pocket work out to be bad. I'm making it out to be pretty untested. He has the athleticism to break contain on the edge defenders he's faced so far, and he has the witts to find the open guy before his 4 second window closes, but I would like to see him win from inside the pocket, under pressure quite a bit more before I draft him over Goff. Something he's going to have to do at the next level in every game.
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They do have similar mobility. They both look like 4.7 to 4.8 guys to me, with Lynch being the 4.7 guy.

And I can count on a single hand how many times Lynch has made a good throw from the inside pocket, while being forced to move, or while taking a big hit in 6 games. He usually gets the ball out before his pocket collapses, which is twice as much time as he will have in the NFL, or he drops his head and scrambles to the right. He is only put into these situations a few times per game. I'm not making Lynchs Pocket work out to be bad. I'm making it out to be pretty untested. He has the athleticism to break contain on the edge defenders he's faced so far, and he has the witts to find the open guy before his 4 second window closes, but I would like to see him win from inside the pocket, under pressure quite a bit more before I draft him over Goff. Something he's going to have to do at the next level in every game.
So, now you're holding it against a guy for getting the ball out before his pocket breaks down?
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So, now you're holding it against a guy for getting the ball out before his pocket breaks down?
If you want to take it as that, yes... You have to look at everything in how it translates to the NFL. We know Goff can still function at a high level while facing pressure immediately after his drop. Nobody has any idea if Lynch can... That's a big question for A LOT of QBs coming out of college... Can they process information in significantly less time? Make it through their reads, make the right read, limit mistakes? The biggest culprit for QBs failing in the NFL is due to their inability to process information quicker.
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The first .gif of Goff in jonzie's post is an nice read + playcall vs quarters.
Nice stuff. What do you think about this play?



Seems like he moved that safety down with his pump fake? Seems like some pretty high level stuff for a college QB. Though i'm not entirely sure he shouldn't have gotten that slot receiver on the left running what looks like a post with the safety being that deep. or if he should have come back to the guy in the left flat. Not sure what to think.
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If you want to take it as that, yes... You have to look at everything in how it translates to the NFL. We know Goff can still function at a high level while facing pressure immediately after his drop. Nobody has any idea if Lynch can... That's a big question for A LOT of QBs coming out of college... Can they process information in significantly less time? Make it through their reads, make the right read, limit mistakes? The biggest culprit for QBs failing in the NFL is due to their inability to process information quicker.
Cook is really good at that, hes made some good plays on 3rd down with pressure. Still want Goff though
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Cook is really good at that, hes made some good plays on 3rd down with pressure. Still want Goff though
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Nice stuff. What do you think about this play?



Seems like he moved that safety down with his pump fake? Seems like some pretty high level stuff for a college QB. Though i'm not entirely sure he shouldn't have gotten that slot receiver on the left running what looks like a post with the safety being that deep. or if he should have come back to the guy in the left flat. Not sure what to think.
Double pumping like that in the nfl against competent safety play would lead to a pick in that situation.
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If you want to take it as that, yes... You have to look at everything in how it translates to the NFL. We know Goff can still function at a high level while facing pressure immediately after his drop. Nobody has any idea if Lynch can... That's a big question for A LOT of QBs coming out of college... Can they process information in significantly less time? Make it through their reads, make the right read, limit mistakes? The biggest culprit for QBs failing in the NFL is due to their inability to process information quicker.
Acording to pff, Lynch has s higher completion percentage under pressure than goff. So?
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I will admit though, the Utah and ucla games are all I've seen of goff
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